NCAAs quarterfinal Cornell vs. BU

[Bahnstorm]

If nothing else this loss and what it meant for Cornell hockey should reinvigorate the "screw BU" cheer, may the pep band oblige.

[Trotsky]

If nothing else this loss and what it meant for Cornell hockey should reinvigorate the "screw BU" cheer, may the pep band oblige.

This. They are a Very Real Enemy again after the 2 QF knock outs and Red Hot Hockey; more relevant at the moment than Harvard and indeed anyone but Q and Clarkson.

I came to hockey sentience with the rivalry, and am so glad to see it alive and well.

[Trotsky]

So, for people who went, what did you think of Toledo?  A Michigander I know said "we fought Ohio for it and they lost."

[Chris '03]

And so I don't really care to celebrate our run and Schafer's career immediately following one of the most brutal losses I have ever seen.
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Dude, are you nuts??
BU killed Ohio State 8-3
We lost in OT
Brutal loss?
No way was this a brutal loss
I think you should get a hobby - knitting or crochet might be good therapy

Wow, some of this stuff on this forum seriously reads like it came from people who have never watched sports before. Yes, losing in the regional final in OT when your team hasn't been to the frozen four since 2003 is 1000x more brutal than losing 8-3 in the opening round. Are you nuts?

Also, why do you even care what I think? I'm just expressing my own opinion, I'm not attacking anybody. Get a grip, dude, not everyone is a happy-go-lucky optimist who smiles serenely after Cornell loses in OT in the regional final to its arch rival to end the career of its coach. I post the most benign shit ever and without fail it triggers a massive freakout. This is the softest and most cringe sports forum in the history of the internet, you all need to grow up.

I've mostly stayed out of this never-ending nonsense but I'm tired of it.

This isn't a sports forum in the sense of a bunch of anonymous semi-literate know it alls yelling at each other online to feel better about themselves. There are plenty of places online for that. I stopped spending any time there years ago.

Many of the long time posters here go back to the beginning of elf and the chdf before that and also know each other offline. For many, the common thread is Cornell hockey.  In 2002, I went from dag14's class on the ag quad to Columbus to watch the season opener (with turkeybone and Josh 99). On the drive I passed Jim Hyla. Scersk97 was at the game. I remember jtw at placid in 2002 working out the pairwise in the days we'll before smart phones. I met ugarte at a lax playoff game with richh. Dbilmes is a fixture at games in CT. I watched plenty of games with ER when we were in school at the same time. The list goes on.

Everyone here loves Cornell and Cornell hockey. Everyone here understands the pain of being teased into believing and then getting punched in the gut. Nobody is looking for the tone of a typical sports message board.  Nobody is looking for innuendo or suggestions about all the low hanging fruit one perceives being missed. Or constant needling and ad hominem assault. I don't care if people are positive or negative. Talk about the games. Be critical of decisions on the ice. Lament ivy rules and covid changes.  But check the needless combativeness and childish name calling at the door. And remember that we're talking about students playing a game.  

For me at least, Cornell hockey is a refuge from the world burning all around us. If I want to be surrounded by gratuitous combativeness, I've got plenty of options.

[Trotsky]

For me at least, Cornell hockey is a refuge from the world burning all around us. If I want to be surrounded by gratuitous combativeness, I've got plenty of options.

We said.  We must all hang together or we shall surely hang separately.

[profudge]

+1 --  agree totally and I did not attend Cornell.  

But eLynah has been a great part of the fan hockey experience for me.

[BlueSky]

Hearing a few tidbits out of Toledo....5 guys sick with the flu right now. Makes me admire the group even more. I few of our studs were less factors than I though would be the case, maybe they were ill.


Also, the guys were taking midterms on Friday!! Do you think the BU players were cranking out Macro Econ midterms or Business Law?  Doubtful.  


Love this group and am saddened the season over. Playing with house money is fun.  I watched the YouTube highlights again, same result, but the NCAA version really shows how amazing Shane was! For being so pedistrian all season, he really got it going over the last month, totally flipped the script. IT would have been a 6-5 game with so many chances both ways. 1st minute of OT coulda/shoulda been our moment. One bounce.  

On to Lax now! #LGR

[Trotsky]

+1 --  agree totally and I did not attend Cornell.  

But eLynah has been a great part of the fan hockey experience for me.

We have been fortunate to have eLynah, and USCHO, and before them all Wayne Smith and Mike Machnik's hockey-l all the way back in the early 90s before some of you were born. ::cheer::  Before that was Don Birkmayer's "The Hockey News," begun in 1954, before we all (I think?) were born.

We stand on the shoulders of giants.

[Trotsky]

Do you think the BU players were cranking out Macro Econ midterms or Business Law?  Doubtful.

Hey!  They're busy too!

[ugarte]

+1 --  agree totally and I did not attend Cornell.  

But eLynah has been a great part of the fan hockey experience for me.

We have been fortunate to have eLynah, and USCHO, and before them all Wayne Smith and Mike Machnik's hockey-l all the way back in the early 90s before some of you were born. ::cheer::  Before that was Don Birkmayer's "The Hockey News," begun in 1954, before we all (I think?) were born.

We stand on the shoulders of giants.

i loved hockey-l as a lifeline in the 1990s as the internet was growing up. i enjoyed the chdf. but what i really loved was being a big ol' asshole on the CGKRT, the clearest inspiration for putting together CHDF and then Age replacing it with eLF.

Anyway just to come on and say: everyone KNOWS the pain you suffer, BearLover. everyone shares it! what we don't do is repeatedly dwell on it. not because we're pie-eyed optimists or dead-enders, but because it's tedious shit to repeat constantly!

i know you think you're providing some kind of counterbalance or something but you don't get to define how you're perceived. after an incredible opening tournament win your immediate PUBLIC reaction was basically "cool but lucky and we're dead now but you sheep won't acknowledge it!" a striking parallel to how you responded to winning the ECAC!

i don't care if you danced around your room,* i didn't get to share that. what you shared instead was an immediate shift, both times, to how depressing it is that we're probably going to lose the next game and there's no light at the end of the tunnel next year or after because the NCAA dynamited the way out.

i was one of your *defenders* regarding the potential coaching failures that led to the frustrating / depressing regular season and your hostility to Jones as a solution (because it's an interesting conversation to start) but goddamn, dude!

*i care a little. it would be nice to know!

[stereax]

For me at least, Cornell hockey is a refuge from the world burning all around us. If I want to be surrounded by gratuitous combativeness, I've got plenty of options.

We said.  We must all hang together or we shall surely hang separately.

+1 to both of you.

Also, this.

This isn't a sports forum in the sense of a bunch of anonymous semi-literate know it alls yelling at each other online to feel better about themselves. There are plenty of places online for that. I stopped spending any time there years ago.

I have no real comments here, other than to nod my head in approval of the poignancy of your post, Chris. It's a family here. Not 4Chan.

[Scersk '97]

We have been fortunate to have eLynah, and USCHO, and before them all Wayne Smith and Mike Machnik's hockey-l all the way back in the early 90s before some of you were born.

I came in on the very end of hockey-l, and boy was it glorious. Because it was full of posters who were knowledgeable, passionate, and, generally, cordial. And it was national in scope.

I hesitate a bit to say this, but I feel like the collegehockey subReddit is not bad. SubReddits can go bad, of course, but the majority of the posters there right now seem cordial. Ridiculous ad hominem attacks get downvoted, or they are encouraged for humorous purposes. Everything is pretty good-natured. Anyone who knows me can figure out who I am there in time.

I'd like this forum to get back there, because I like having multiple layers of college hockey fandom engagement. As a product of upstate New York, I believe in having many, many sometimes seemingly duplicative layers of civic society in order that we might all be able to coexist despite our wild individuality.

[Dafatone]

I'm a Mets fan. Cornell hockey can't hurt me because I'm already dead.

[Jim Hyla]

And so I don't really care to celebrate our run and Schafer's career immediately following one of the most brutal losses I have ever seen.
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Dude, are you nuts??
BU killed Ohio State 8-3
We lost in OT
Brutal loss?
No way was this a brutal loss
I think you should get a hobby - knitting or crochet might be good therapy

Wow, some of this stuff on this forum seriously reads like it came from people who have never watched sports before. Yes, losing in the regional final in OT when your team hasn't been to the frozen four since 2003 is 1000x more brutal than losing 8-3 in the opening round. Are you nuts?

Also, why do you even care what I think? I'm just expressing my own opinion, I'm not attacking anybody. Get a grip, dude, not everyone is a happy-go-lucky optimist who smiles serenely after Cornell loses in OT in the regional final to its arch rival to end the career of its coach. I post the most benign shit ever and without fail it triggers a massive freakout. This is the softest and most cringe sports forum in the history of the internet, you all need to grow up.

After watching CU hockey for 62 years I have my own perspective.

And this is not brutal. Getting real close and not winning is sports. Yes doing it year after year is tough, but not brutal to me. I drove 7 hours to Toledo and then 7 hours back right after the game. Fortunately Marty was with me. If he hadn't texted me, I doubt I would have made the drive.

But you know what, I was happy that I did it. I was happy that I had the opportunity to do it.

You see for me winning is great, but you know what's better? HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN! You don't get the opportunity to win a game like this unless you have already been winning.

Unfortunately for too many of those 62 years I never had this opportunity to watch a regional final. You see, there were many, too many years when that chance never existed. We were never there. And let me tell you after 2 National Championships and 4 ECAC Championships in a row, those years were bad.

For me winning is great, but you know what's better than winning, being with people that really care like you do. People that say thank you every time that I give them a newspaper, or people that proudly show me the newspaper that they brought with them. Turn around and look at the group of Cornell fans that are with you. They cheer on their own, cheer with the band, stand whenever they hear "Townies Up." That's what makes this not brutal.

I drove home happy about being there, not happy that they lost. Give me a break! No I was happy that I was able to be there with everyone else. I was happy that Marty texted me and that we drove 14 hours in one day to be able to be part of it.

Those types of memories will stay with me. I'll always be unhappy that we lost, but I'll be happier that they gave me the chance to be there and hope they could win.

If you want to understand this further, go watch or read what Coach said about Cornell in his post game, it's opportunity for him and it's students, the administration that gave him this chance, the band, the fans, but most of all the players that he's had a chance to coach, the true student athletes that he's been proud to associate with. And why when you put all this into perspective, why he's happy where his life's taken him, even though he's pissed about losing.

I'm sure he must have had chances to go to bigger programs, but he stayed at Cornell, because as he implied, there was something special that he felt.

Losing or not, he goes out a winner and I feel privileged to have been able to see some small part of that with him.

This wasn't brutal, this was a privilege that other schools haven't had.

[Snowball]

And so I don't really care to celebrate our run and Schafer's career immediately following one of the most brutal losses I have ever seen.
.

Dude, are you nuts??
BU killed Ohio State 8-3
We lost in OT
Brutal loss?
No way was this a brutal loss
I think you should get a hobby - knitting or crochet might be good therapy

Wow, some of this stuff on this forum seriously reads like it came from people who have never watched sports before. Yes, losing in the regional final in OT when your team hasn't been to the frozen four since 2003 is 1000x more brutal than losing 8-3 in the opening round. Are you nuts?

Also, why do you even care what I think? I'm just expressing my own opinion, I'm not attacking anybody. Get a grip, dude, not everyone is a happy-go-lucky optimist who smiles serenely after Cornell loses in OT in the regional final to its arch rival to end the career of its coach. I post the most benign shit ever and without fail it triggers a massive freakout. This is the softest and most cringe sports forum in the history of the internet, you all need to grow up.

After watching CU hockey for 62 years I have my own perspective.

And this is not brutal. Getting real close and not winning is sports. Yes doing it year after year is tough, but not brutal to me. I drove 7 hours to Toledo and then 7 hours back right after the game. Fortunately Marty was with me. If he hadn't texted me, I doubt I would have made the drive.

But you know what, I was happy that I did it. I was happy that I had the opportunity to do it.

You see for me winning is great, but you know what's better? HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN! You don't get the opportunity to win a game like this unless you have already been winning.

Unfortunately for too many of those 62 years I never had this opportunity to watch a regional final. You see, there were many, too many years when that chance never existed. We were never there. And let me tell you after 2 National Championships and 4 ECAC Championships in a row, those years were bad.

For me winning is great, but you know what's better than winning, being with people that really care like you do. People that say thank you every time that I give them a newspaper, or people that proudly show me the newspaper that they brought with them. Turn around and look at the group of Cornell fans that are with you. They cheer on their own, cheer with the band, stand whenever they hear "Townies Up." That's what makes this not brutal.

I drove home happy about being there, not happy that they lost. Give me a break! No I was happy that I was able to be there with everyone else. I was happy that Marty texted me and that we drove 14 hours in one day to be able to be part of it.

Those types of memories will stay with me. I'll always be unhappy that we lost, but I'll be happier that they gave me the chance to be there and hope they could win.

If you want to understand this further, go watch or read what Coach said about Cornell in his post game, it's opportunity for him and it's students, the administration that gave him this chance, the band, the fans, but most of all the players that he's had a chance to coach, the true student athletes that he's been proud to associate with. And why when you put all this into perspective, why he's happy where his life's taken him, even though he's pissed about losing.

I'm sure he must have had chances to go to bigger programs, but he stayed at Cornell, because as he implied, there was something special that he felt.

Losing or not, he goes out a winner and I feel privileged to have been able to see some small part of that with him.

This wasn't brutal, this was a privilege that other schools haven't had.

Amen

And thank you Jim for the papers, your loyalty, and being part of what makes Cornell hockey so great!