NCAAs quarterfinal Cornell vs. BU

[dag14]

Someone asked about number of posts in a game thread.  I scanned to the beginning of time and the previous record was 317 for a playoff game with Clarkson in March 11, 2006.  That one was followed by a separate post-game thread of 143 posts, for a total of 460.

i wonder how much of it was dick swinging from guys fighting for the title of gloomiest poster

Much more likely it was dick swinging from the people happy when Cornell is losing 6-1 to Dartmouth and Union and blaming every thing on injuries, as they comprise 90% of this forum

https://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,88730

Wow I forgot about RichS

I figured this would be the super long game where Molson scored his last goal, a 2OT (3OT?) beauty to put Clarkson away. Then the ecacs, followed by tragedy vs Wisconsin in Milwaukee. But it's the game before!! With a Sawada GWG in 2OT.

Anyways.... Nothing to be ashamed of, what an unbelievable run. I really really liked this team. Incredible patience and grit, and Shane was a brick wall. Good health to coach and welcome to Casey.

But if we go back on our posts during the season (including mine) we were incredibly frustrated by this team until we got healthy and played like the team we expected all season long. I thought today was about as well as we've played all season against an excellent and skilled team, which of course leaves us all thinking "what if."

Right, nobody is ashamed of anything, nobody doubts this was a great run, nobody doesn't love Schafer. People who are upset and complaining are doing so because this was yet another team capable of going to the frozen four or farther but didn't get there. That this was a great run nobody saw coming a month ago is beside the point. When you get to the regional final, however you get there, you have a special opportunity to do something amazing for your program and your school. And under Schafer we are now 1-10 in those opportunities.

Unless you have played Ivy League sports, coached or otherwise had a connection other than an armchair commentator, you should just shut up.  What these young men and women and their coaches do is nothing short of amazing.  The players hold down two full-time jobs -- Ivy league student and D1 athlete -- and they devote all their time and effort to achieving the best results they can.  Because they WANT TO, not because anyone pays them [at least not yet]. And in many sports, not because athletic success might translate into a future paycheck.  Ivy League coaches like Mike Schafer devote their working lives to coaching and teaching their athletes for the same reason.

Shit happens.  Players get hurt, get sick, have a bad game.  Get over it.  We are talking about college sports not the NHL.  How the hell do you know that this group of young men had more "potential?"  Do you think they didn't do their best to win the games they lost?  Do you think they are lazy, uncommitted, unfocussed?  How about being happy about what they achieved?  And how about acknowledging that whatever disappointment and pain you are feeling about the game we just lost is NOTHING compared to what the team is feeling right now.

As fans it is one thing to post observations and opinions about how a game unfolds and perhaps even the choices it appears that a player makes on the ice.  Whether the officials got it right, whether our team got the bounces.  But to devolve to the point that you castigate a coach because he only took his team to the Frozen Four once in his career is just immature.

If it weren't for the insights and hilarious posts on eLynah that outnumbered your whining, I would just stop visiting this site.

[stereax]

...whatever disappointment and pain you are feeling about the game we just lost is NOTHING compared to what the team is feeling right now.

I hope that team knows they've made all of us (most of us, at minimum) proud with just how hard they fought for it.

[BearLover]

Someone asked about number of posts in a game thread.  I scanned to the beginning of time and the previous record was 317 for a playoff game with Clarkson in March 11, 2006.  That one was followed by a separate post-game thread of 143 posts, for a total of 460.

i wonder how much of it was dick swinging from guys fighting for the title of gloomiest poster

Much more likely it was dick swinging from the people happy when Cornell is losing 6-1 to Dartmouth and Union and blaming every thing on injuries, as they comprise 90% of this forum

https://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,88730

Wow I forgot about RichS

I figured this would be the super long game where Molson scored his last goal, a 2OT (3OT?) beauty to put Clarkson away. Then the ecacs, followed by tragedy vs Wisconsin in Milwaukee. But it's the game before!! With a Sawada GWG in 2OT.

Anyways.... Nothing to be ashamed of, what an unbelievable run. I really really liked this team. Incredible patience and grit, and Shane was a brick wall. Good health to coach and welcome to Casey.

But if we go back on our posts during the season (including mine) we were incredibly frustrated by this team until we got healthy and played like the team we expected all season long. I thought today was about as well as we've played all season against an excellent and skilled team, which of course leaves us all thinking "what if."

Right, nobody is ashamed of anything, nobody doubts this was a great run, nobody doesn't love Schafer. People who are upset and complaining are doing so because this was yet another team capable of going to the frozen four or farther but didn't get there. That this was a great run nobody saw coming a month ago is beside the point. When you get to the regional final, however you get there, you have a special opportunity to do something amazing for your program and your school. And under Schafer we are now 1-10 in those opportunities.

Unless you have played Ivy League sports, coached or otherwise had a connection other than an armchair commentator, you should just shut up.  What these young men and women and their coaches do is nothing short of amazing.  The players hold down two full-time jobs -- Ivy league student and D1 athlete -- and they devote all their time and effort to achieving the best results they can.  Because they WANT TO, not because anyone pays them [at least not yet]. And in many sports, not because athletic success might translate into a future paycheck.  Ivy League coaches like Mike Schafer devote their working lives to coaching and teaching their athletes for the same reason.

Shit happens.  Players get hurt, get sick, have a bad game.  Get over it.  We are talking about college sports not the NHL.  How the hell do you know that this group of young men had more "potential?"  Do you think they didn't do their best to win the games they lost?  Do you think they are lazy, uncommitted, unfocussed?  How about being happy about what they achieved?  And how about acknowledging that whatever disappointment and pain you are feeling about the game we just lost is NOTHING compared to what the team is feeling right now.

As fans it is one thing to post observations and opinions about how a game unfolds and perhaps even the choices it appears that a player makes on the ice.  Whether the officials got it right, whether our team got the bounces.  But to devolve to the point that you castigate a coach because he only took his team to the Frozen Four once in his career is just immature.

If it weren't for the insights and hilarious posts on eLynah that outnumbered your whining, I would just stop visiting this site.

Sorry, what? Maybe you should re-read my post or something because you're arguing a bunch of stuff that I agree with and that should be completely obvious.

[dag14]

...whatever disappointment and pain you are feeling about the game we just lost is NOTHING compared to what the team is feeling right now.

I hope that team knows they've made all of us (most of us, at minimum) proud with just how hard they fought for it.

You are one of the posters that keeps me coming back.

[stereax]

...whatever disappointment and pain you are feeling about the game we just lost is NOTHING compared to what the team is feeling right now.

I hope that team knows they've made all of us (most of us, at minimum) proud with just how hard they fought for it.

You are one of the posters that keeps me coming back.

That's flattery, hahaha. But I'm glad I have a positive impact like that

[Snowball]

Well said:

The players hold down two full-time jobs -- Ivy league student and D1 athlete -- and they devote all their time and effort to achieving the best results they can. Because they WANT TO, not because anyone pays them [at least not yet]. And in many sports, not because athletic success might translate into a future paycheck. Ivy League coaches like Mike Schafer devote their working lives to coaching and teaching their athletes for the same reason.

[dag14]

Someone asked about number of posts in a game thread.  I scanned to the beginning of time and the previous record was 317 for a playoff game with Clarkson in March 11, 2006.  That one was followed by a separate post-game thread of 143 posts, for a total of 460.

i wonder how much of it was dick swinging from guys fighting for the title of gloomiest poster

Much more likely it was dick swinging from the people happy when Cornell is losing 6-1 to Dartmouth and Union and blaming every thing on injuries, as they comprise 90% of this forum

https://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,88730

Buddy -- you do more than your share of whining.  In spite of what you think you are posting, that is what the rest of us read.

Wow I forgot about RichS

I figured this would be the super long game where Molson scored his last goal, a 2OT (3OT?) beauty to put Clarkson away. Then the ecacs, followed by tragedy vs Wisconsin in Milwaukee. But it's the game before!! With a Sawada GWG in 2OT.

Anyways.... Nothing to be ashamed of, what an unbelievable run. I really really liked this team. Incredible patience and grit, and Shane was a brick wall. Good health to coach and welcome to Casey.

But if we go back on our posts during the season (including mine) we were incredibly frustrated by this team until we got healthy and played like the team we expected all season long. I thought today was about as well as we've played all season against an excellent and skilled team, which of course leaves us all thinking "what if."

Right, nobody is ashamed of anything, nobody doubts this was a great run, nobody doesn't love Schafer. People who are upset and complaining are doing so because this was yet another team capable of going to the frozen four or farther but didn't get there. That this was a great run nobody saw coming a month ago is beside the point. When you get to the regional final, however you get there, you have a special opportunity to do something amazing for your program and your school. And under Schafer we are now 1-10 in those opportunities.

Unless you have played Ivy League sports, coached or otherwise had a connection other than an armchair commentator, you should just shut up.  What these young men and women and their coaches do is nothing short of amazing.  The players hold down two full-time jobs -- Ivy league student and D1 athlete -- and they devote all their time and effort to achieving the best results they can.  Because they WANT TO, not because anyone pays them [at least not yet]. And in many sports, not because athletic success might translate into a future paycheck.  Ivy League coaches like Mike Schafer devote their working lives to coaching and teaching their athletes for the same reason.

Shit happens.  Players get hurt, get sick, have a bad game.  Get over it.  We are talking about college sports not the NHL.  How the hell do you know that this group of young men had more "potential?"  Do you think they didn't do their best to win the games they lost?  Do you think they are lazy, uncommitted, unfocussed?  How about being happy about what they achieved?  And how about acknowledging that whatever disappointment and pain you are feeling about the game we just lost is NOTHING compared to what the team is feeling right now.

As fans it is one thing to post observations and opinions about how a game unfolds and perhaps even the choices it appears that a player makes on the ice.  Whether the officials got it right, whether our team got the bounces.  But to devolve to the point that you castigate a coach because he only took his team to the Frozen Four once in his career is just immature.

If it weren't for the insights and hilarious posts on eLynah that outnumbered your whining, I would just stop visiting this site.

Sorry, what? Maybe you should re-read my post or something because you're arguing a bunch of stuff that I agree with and that should be completely obvious.

I have read every entry you have posted, at least this year.  You whine, complain, and criticize.  That is what the rest of us take away from your posts.

[Snowball]

I hope that team knows they've made all of us (most of us, at minimum) proud with just how hard they fought for it.

1000% True

[BearLover]

Someone asked about number of posts in a game thread.  I scanned to the beginning of time and the previous record was 317 for a playoff game with Clarkson in March 11, 2006.  That one was followed by a separate post-game thread of 143 posts, for a total of 460.

i wonder how much of it was dick swinging from guys fighting for the title of gloomiest poster

Much more likely it was dick swinging from the people happy when Cornell is losing 6-1 to Dartmouth and Union and blaming every thing on injuries, as they comprise 90% of this forum

https://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,88730

Buddy -- you do more than your share of whining.  In spite of what you think you are posting, that is what the rest of us read.

Wow I forgot about RichS

I figured this would be the super long game where Molson scored his last goal, a 2OT (3OT?) beauty to put Clarkson away. Then the ecacs, followed by tragedy vs Wisconsin in Milwaukee. But it's the game before!! With a Sawada GWG in 2OT.

Anyways.... Nothing to be ashamed of, what an unbelievable run. I really really liked this team. Incredible patience and grit, and Shane was a brick wall. Good health to coach and welcome to Casey.

But if we go back on our posts during the season (including mine) we were incredibly frustrated by this team until we got healthy and played like the team we expected all season long. I thought today was about as well as we've played all season against an excellent and skilled team, which of course leaves us all thinking "what if."

Right, nobody is ashamed of anything, nobody doubts this was a great run, nobody doesn't love Schafer. People who are upset and complaining are doing so because this was yet another team capable of going to the frozen four or farther but didn't get there. That this was a great run nobody saw coming a month ago is beside the point. When you get to the regional final, however you get there, you have a special opportunity to do something amazing for your program and your school. And under Schafer we are now 1-10 in those opportunities.

Unless you have played Ivy League sports, coached or otherwise had a connection other than an armchair commentator, you should just shut up.  What these young men and women and their coaches do is nothing short of amazing.  The players hold down two full-time jobs -- Ivy league student and D1 athlete -- and they devote all their time and effort to achieving the best results they can.  Because they WANT TO, not because anyone pays them [at least not yet]. And in many sports, not because athletic success might translate into a future paycheck.  Ivy League coaches like Mike Schafer devote their working lives to coaching and teaching their athletes for the same reason.

Shit happens.  Players get hurt, get sick, have a bad game.  Get over it.  We are talking about college sports not the NHL.  How the hell do you know that this group of young men had more "potential?"  Do you think they didn't do their best to win the games they lost?  Do you think they are lazy, uncommitted, unfocussed?  How about being happy about what they achieved?  And how about acknowledging that whatever disappointment and pain you are feeling about the game we just lost is NOTHING compared to what the team is feeling right now.

As fans it is one thing to post observations and opinions about how a game unfolds and perhaps even the choices it appears that a player makes on the ice.  Whether the officials got it right, whether our team got the bounces.  But to devolve to the point that you castigate a coach because he only took his team to the Frozen Four once in his career is just immature.

If it weren't for the insights and hilarious posts on eLynah that outnumbered your whining, I would just stop visiting this site.

Sorry, what? Maybe you should re-read my post or something because you're arguing a bunch of stuff that I agree with and that should be completely obvious.

I have read every entry you have posted, at least this year.  You whine, complain, and criticize.  That is what the rest of us take away from your posts.

I also celebrate, cheer, and praise. Depending on what I think of the team. I did plenty of celebrating the last few weeks, and plenty of complaining when the team was underachieving for most of the year. You're lecturing me about the trials of being a D-1 athlete in the Ivy League in response to a totally innocuous post where I said nobody is ashamed of what they've accomplished. I was bemoaning our horrible luck in the regional final and you went off on me about how hard it is to be a Cornell athlete. You're arguing against a strawman lol

[Robb]

Count me in the 1000% proud camp.  It would have been so easy for this team to mail it in - they had every excuse in the world NOT to put in the extra effort it must have taken to gel late Feb & March with a completely different lineup than they had a month before.  Their record was already a millstone around their necks - by the time everyone got healthy, it was clear we were going on the road for the ECAC playoffs, with a run to Lake Placid very unlikely.  Just let the season run out and move on with life.

But they didn't take that path - they did not let the situation control their intensity.  They buckled down and poured their hearts into every shift, steamrolling Colgate on the road, never giving up against Q, controlling Clarkson, taking down the #1 team in the polls, and taking arguably the most skilled team in the country to OT.

I could not be prouder - which is exactly why it hurts so much.  If losing didn't hurt, then winning wouldn't be special, and that's not a life I choose to live.  I want the highs, so I take the lows.  You cannot have one without the other.

Let's Go Red.

[profudge]

Definitely agree - Linesman got in there and pushed Walsh's arm down and he was only holding 2 players off as best he  could from what I saw.

I really enjoyed this season - TY coach!  thank you Seniors!   And thank you all the players!
And s special thanks to the many support staff that help make this program what it is!  

I will look forward to next fall with all the patience I can muster.

[stereax]

Count me in the 1000% proud camp.  It would have been so easy for this team to mail it in - they had every excuse in the world NOT to put in the extra effort it must have taken to gel late Feb & March with a completely different lineup than they had a month before.  Their record was already a millstone around their necks - by the time everyone got healthy, it was clear we were going on the road for the ECAC playoffs, with a run to Lake Placid very unlikely.  Just let the season run out and move on with life.

But they didn't take that path - they did not let the situation control their intensity.  They buckled down and poured their hearts into every shift, steamrolling Colgate on the road, never giving up against Q, controlling Clarkson, taking down the #1 team in the polls, and taking arguably the most skilled team in the country to OT.

I could not be prouder - which is exactly why it hurts so much.  If losing didn't hurt, then winning wouldn't be special, and that's not a life I choose to live.  I want the highs, so I take the lows.  You cannot have one without the other.

Let's Go Red.

This exactly. So much to be proud of. That's why it smarts.

LGR.

[arugula]

Makes you wonder if this was our last true shot at it given the changing recruiting environment with the CHL.

Probably not, but we've already had trouble trying to keep up with perennial powerhouses of college hockey.  It'll be more of the same as far as I'm concerned.  Schafer frequently found a way to put together the right team in spite of a general lack of superstars.  Hopefully Casey will be able to follow suit.

How about hopefully Casey will be able to attract some blue-chip recruits.

This. Gotta have faith, guys. We may never be a true "powerhouse" team, but years such as this one have proved that we can hang with them. Trust in the process and the recruitment. Things always work out.

I have to say, Cornell went toe to toe with that 13+ draft pick team from Boston today. BU definitely had one or two standout players that were clearly better than anybody in red today, but apart from their power play (which, to be clear, is a big deal) they didn't look to be that much more talented as a team.

At the end of the day this was the Cornell team we thought we'd get all year. I'm glad they got everybody healthy and figured it out in time for the playoffs, because they were a lot of fun to watch.

Looking forward, Jones has a reputation as an excellent recruiter - he certainly got a solid core of talent for both Clarkson and Cornell in his earlier positions (obviously we don't yet know what he'll bring to Cornell as a head coach). I'm not sure how many true blue-chip recruits he can pull in to an Ivy given the various restrictions, but if you think about it a solid all-around program like Cornell only really needs to find a couple to get over the hump.

Nodding enthusiastically along. If you told me in December we'd lose to BU in overtime in the NCAA regionals after winning against MSU, I'd have told you you were crazy. The Big Red put up a great fight, despite a disparity in talent, and should be commended.

I can't wait to see the Jones Big Red next year. Hoping that at some point we can recruit one of those nice first/second round players who are impact NHLers, but we'll see.

As college sports, even hockey, devolves into pay for play, it seems unlikely we'll be able to bring in the super elite talent. But we'll have to see how this shakes out over the next few years.

We have rarely brought in super elite talent. We rely on depth, longevity, chemistry, and THE SYSTEM. Should still be able to rely on those things.  We recruit from a smaller pool but those players want us too. A Gabe Seger isn't going to a Big10 school for example.

[yougoon]

Count me in the 1000% proud camp.  It would have been so easy for this team to mail it in - they had every excuse in the world NOT to put in the extra effort it must have taken to gel late Feb & March with a completely different lineup than they had a month before.  Their record was already a millstone around their necks - by the time everyone got healthy, it was clear we were going on the road for the ECAC playoffs, with a run to Lake Placid very unlikely.  Just let the season run out and move on with life.

But they didn't take that path - they did not let the situation control their intensity.  They buckled down and poured their hearts into every shift, steamrolling Colgate on the road, never giving up against Q, controlling Clarkson, taking down the #1 team in the polls, and taking arguably the most skilled team in the country to OT.

I could not be prouder - which is exactly why it hurts so much.  If losing didn't hurt, then winning wouldn't be special, and that's not a life I choose to live.  I want the highs, so I take the lows.  You cannot have one without the other.

Let's Go Red.

+1  1000%

[arugula]

Nice tweet from BU hockey congratulating Coach.