Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18

Started by Jim Hyla, October 31, 2017, 04:12:51 PM

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billhoward

Quote from: TrotskyYou know the expression that the most vicious battles are over corner offices.
"In academia, the knives are so long because the stakes are so small."

adamw

Quote from: RichHYep. Vesey got the Hobey as a "Career Achievement Award," as his Junior season was better, and there were better players the year he won.

ECAC awards notoriously favor upperclassmen, and it's more difficult for Goaltenders to win Player of the Year awards, especially against high-scoring candidates. After last night, he leads the nation in GPG. It's going to be Donato Jr, and it's well deserved.

Having been on the Committee -- and voted for a non-winner all 3 times -- I can tell you that most people on it vote for dumb reasons (actually, most people anywhere on anything vote for dumb reasons) ... But it's not necessarily conscious and calculated like this.

I will also say that, while true Vesey may have won because of that sentiment (subconsciously) I still think you could construct a pretty good argument for him being the best player his senior year. And I made that argument, but then chickened out and named Kyle Connor our CHN POTY anyway. Connor would've been the second straight freshman to win. And the best player in college hockey last year was Clayton Keller, another freshman, and he wasn't even among the finalists.

I've always wanted to create a Lifetime Achievement Award and add it to the mix of what takes place annually (a la the Richter Award, which was an invention of a magazine in Minnesota) - but I don't have enough time or money to give it the proper attention/traction it needs.
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Swampy

Quote from: adamwHaving been on the Committee -- and voted for a non-winner all 3 times -- I can tell you that most people on it vote for dumb reasons (actually, most people anywhere on anything vote for dumb reasons) ...

Oh, come on. Where's the proof of that?


Trotsky

Quote from: pfibigerSchafer named ECAC Coach of the Year:

http://cornellsun.com/2018/03/12/schafer-86-named-ecac-coach-of-the-year/
YAY!

That is great news.  He genuinely deserves it!  Way to go, Slender Mike!

Give My Regards

Coach Schafer has won COTY every time Cornell has finished first in the ECAC during his tenure.

Hope he wins it again next year :-)
If you lead a good life, go to Sunday school and church, and say your prayers every night, when you die, you'll go to LYNAH!

Larry72

Quote from: Give My RegardsCoach Schafer has won COTY every time Cornell has finished first in the ECAC during his tenure.

Hope he wins it again next year :-)

And the year after ...
Larry Baum '72
Ithaca, NY

Swampy

We are really lucky Mike is a Cornellian. If he were a mercenary coach, like many are, he'd have long gone by now. Instead, we have consistency and stability. This season he's shown that he can change with the game, and still excell.

Well done, Mike!

Keep Cornell Great!

BearLover

Quote from: SwampyWe are really lucky Mike is a Cornellian. If he were a mercenary coach, like many are, he'd have long gone by now. Instead, we have consistency and stability. This season he's shown that he can change with the game, and still excell.

Well done, Mike!

Keep Cornell Great!
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Jim Hyla

ECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

FIRST TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward    Ryan Donato, Harvard
Forward    Sheldon Rempal, Clarkson
Forward    Max VĂ©ronneau, Princeton  
Defense    Adam Fox, Harvard          
Defense    Kelly Summers, Clarkson
Goaltender    Matthew Galajda, Cornell

SECOND TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward    Anthony Angello, Cornell
Forward    Ryan Kuffner, Princeton
Forward    Joe Snively, Yale
Defense    Terrance Amorosa, Clarkson    
Defense    Chase Priskie, Quinnipiac
Goaltender    Colton Point, Colgate

THIRD TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward    Ryan Scarfo, Union    
Forward    Nico Sturm, Clarkson
Forward    Odeen Tufto, Quinnipiac
Defense    Yanni Kaldis, Cornell
Defense    Josh Teves, Princeton        
Goaltender    Jake Kielly, Clarkson
                   Jake Kupsky, Union

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Forward    Jack Badini, Harvard
Forward    Jack Jacome, Clarkson
Forward    Odeen Tufto, Quinnipiac
Defense    Nick Austin, Colgate
Defense    Reilly Walsh, Harvard
Goaltender    Matthew Galajda, Cornell


A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

scoop85

Quote from: Jim HylaECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

FIRST TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward    Ryan Donato, Harvard
Forward    Sheldon Rempal, Clarkson
Forward    Max VĂ©ronneau, Princeton  
Defense    Adam Fox, Harvard          
Defense    Kelly Summers, Clarkson
Goaltender    Matthew Galajda, Cornell

SECOND TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward    Anthony Angello, Cornell
Forward    Ryan Kuffner, Princeton
Forward    Joe Snively, Yale
Defense    Terrance Amorosa, Clarkson    
Defense    Chase Priskie, Quinnipiac
Goaltender    Colton Point, Colgate

THIRD TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward    Ryan Scarfo, Union    
Forward    Nico Sturm, Clarkson
Forward    Odeen Tufto, Quinnipiac
Defense    Yanni Kaldis, Cornell
Defense    Josh Teves, Princeton        
Goaltender    Jake Kielly, Clarkson
                   Jake Kupsky, Union

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Forward    Jack Badini, Harvard
Forward    Jack Jacome, Clarkson
Forward    Odeen Tufto, Quinnipiac
Defense    Nick Austin, Colgate
Defense    Reilly Walsh, Harvard
Goaltender    Matthew Galajda, Cornell


A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Jim HylaECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

scoop85

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Jim HylaECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

It's nuts that the defensemen are judged primarily on their offensive output, as shown by the selections.

Beeeej

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Jim HylaECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

It's nuts that the defensemen are judged primarily on their offensive output, as shown by the selections.

I think that's an interesting pattern to observe, but it's still conclusory. Has anybody also checked, say, a list of all ECAC defensemen by +/- against these picks? Or number of blocked shots?
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Jim HylaECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

It's nuts that the defensemen are judged primarily on their offensive output, as shown by the selections.

I think that's an interesting pattern to observe, but it's still conclusory. Has anybody also checked, say, a list of all ECAC defensemen by +/- against these picks? Or number of blocked shots?

Yeah the first in +/- list is Amorosa, at #14. McCrea is third and we have 5/13 before Amorosa.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005