Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18

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[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

[ugarte]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

[Swampy]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Different take. Galajda has glitzy numbers because he's playing behind the #1 defense in the country. Donato has glitzy numbers because he's scored over 25% of his team's goals. So how to think about this?

Galajda: Do you penalize a player because he's playing on a great team? Without him, chances are Cornell is still going to the NCAA's but with a lower seed.

Donato: The fact that he's a skater w/26 goals and the next-highest goal scorer on the team has 10 goals, says Donato is transcending his team. Without him, Harvard would be playing golf today.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

Best offensive player.  Hard to say Galajda isn't the best defensive player.

And we all know offense wins awards over defense.

[ugarte]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

Best offensive player.  Hard to say Galajda isn't the best defensive player.

And we all know offense wins awards over defense.

Look I know we love Cornell and all but Donato is the best player in the conference.

Galajda's stats are literally not materially better than Stewart's. Take a look at the difference between Colton Point and his backups and tell me that Galajda is the MVP.

[Trotsky]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

I thought they voted only based on the RS.

[Trotsky]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

I think he is the best.  But it's a very good look for the conference to name an American Olympic hero  from Harvard as the face of the conference.

[Swampy]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

I think he is the best.  But it's a very good look for the conference to name an American Olympic hero  from Harvard as the face of the conference.

Besides, Galadja is only a freshman, part of an impactful freshmen class, with many of the most productive upperclassmen coming back next year. So chances are he'll have the chance to win the award in the near future. Donato, on the other hand, might be going pro at the end of this season. So the committee would want to give him his trophy now.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

I think he is the best.  But it's a very good look for the conference to name an American Olympic hero  from Harvard as the face of the conference.

Besides, Galadja is only a freshman, part of an impactful freshmen class, with many of the most productive upperclassmen coming back next year. So chances are he'll have the chance to win the award in the near future. Donato, on the other hand, might be going pro at the end of this season. So the committee would want to give him his trophy now.

That's really the most likely argument, IMO.

[Trotsky]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

I think he is the best.  But it's a very good look for the conference to name an American Olympic hero  from Harvard as the face of the conference.

Besides, Galadja is only a freshman, part of an impactful freshmen class, with many of the most productive upperclassmen coming back next year. So chances are he'll have the chance to win the award in the near future. Donato, on the other hand, might be going pro at the end of this season. So the committee would want to give him his trophy now.

That's really the most likely argument, IMO.

I actually thought he won last year but that was Vecchione.

Well, if he wins it maybe he'll piss off to the Bruins.

[Swampy]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

I think he is the best.  But it's a very good look for the conference to name an American Olympic hero  from Harvard as the face of the conference.

Besides, Galadja is only a freshman, part of an impactful freshmen class, with many of the most productive upperclassmen coming back next year. So chances are he'll have the chance to win the award in the near future. Donato, on the other hand, might be going pro at the end of this season. So the committee would want to give him his trophy now.

That's really the most likely argument, IMO.

I actually thought he won last year but that was Vecchione.

Well, if he wins it maybe he'll piss off to the Bruins.

Here's another point. All signs point to Donato being very successful as a pro. Imagine him getting to the NHL HOF, but the committee passed him over for what may be a 1-season, flash-in-the-pan freshman. I hope this is not how Galadja turns out, but there's always the chance. If you're the committee, wouldn't you cover your bets?

[BearLover]

Gotta think that one's going to Donato since they already gave Galajda an award, especially with Sucks making it to Placid.

Also with Donato being the best player in the conference.

I think he is the best.  But it's a very good look for the conference to name an American Olympic hero  from Harvard as the face of the conference.

Besides, Galadja is only a freshman, part of an impactful freshmen class, with many of the most productive upperclassmen coming back next year. So chances are he'll have the chance to win the award in the near future. Donato, on the other hand, might be going pro at the end of this season. So the committee would want to give him his trophy now.

That's really the most likely argument, IMO.

I actually thought he won last year but that was Vecchione.

Well, if he wins it maybe he'll piss off to the Bruins.

Here's another point. All signs point to Donato being very successful as a pro. Imagine him getting to the NHL HOF, but the committee passed him over for what may be a 1-season, flash-in-the-pan freshman. I hope this is not how Galadja turns out, but there's always the chance. If you're the committee, wouldn't you cover your bets?

It's not the committee's job to take any of these things into account--their job is to choose the best player in the ECAC this year, period.

[Trotsky]

It's not the committee's job to take any of these things into account--their job is to choose the best player in the ECAC this year, period.

While true, committees like this play those games all the time, especially when there is nothing at stake.  You know the expression that the most vicious battles are over corner offices.  

Take a look at the complete list of ECAC Hobey winners.  It's not an accident.

[RichH]

It's not the committee's job to take any of these things into account--their job is to choose the best player in the ECAC this year, period.

While true, committees like this play those games all the time, especially when there is nothing at stake.  You know the expression that the most vicious battles are over corner offices.  

Take a look at the complete list of ECAC Hobey winners.  It's not an accident.

Yep. Vesey got the Hobey as a "Career Achievement Award," as his Junior season was better, and there were better players the year he won.

ECAC awards notoriously favor upperclassmen, and it's more difficult for Goaltenders to win Player of the Year awards, especially against high-scoring candidates. After last night, he leads the nation in GPG. It's going to be Donato Jr, and it's well deserved.