Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18

Started by Jim Hyla, October 31, 2017, 04:12:51 PM

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RichH

Okay so the way they do the Hobey selection now has infected its way down to the league awards now. Coach of the Year "finalist?" You know how many Finalists there are? There are twelve. And we usually can tell right away who the top 2 or 3 are just by glancing at the standings and sometimes the pre-season polls; we don't need special Finalist recognition. Just announce the damn awards like the Ivy League still does. Can the pomp.

While I'm at it, now the stupidly-named Richter award (he never had any real success in his two collegiate seasons before bolting) gets a list of "semi-finalists?" Is this a tournament? Do the semifinalists get to go one-on-one to see who elevated to all-vaunted "Finalist?" Will the losers get roses and depart the crease to a ballad? Jebus. The award will be between Galajda, Point, and Morris, with Kielly and Primeau as dark-horses.

Trotsky

10 --> 3 --> 1 seems OK to me for national awards for ROTY, POTY, forwards and defensemen.  There are a shit ton of them, so why not?

For GOTY and COTY, to maintain the same level of quality you'd need to contract the 10 to 5, but 5 --> 3 is dumb, so they should just have 3 --> 1.

I think the Hobey 10 --> 3 --> 1 progression is actually pretty cool, and I will challenge you to a curmudgeon contest any day.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim HylaGalajda Named Finalist for ECAC League's Rookie of the Year Award
Galajda should win this one easily, I would think.

And I think Schafer will win, too.
Schafer should win but he has 3 already and Casey is a really good guy, so he may take it.

ROTY: they're all really great candidates.  It's funny for a soft year for the conference we also had an influx of great players.

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim HylaGalajda Named Finalist for ECAC League's Rookie of the Year Award
Galajda should win this one easily, I would think.

And I think Schafer will win, too.
Schafer should win but he has 3 already and Casey is a really good guy, so he may take it.

ROTY: they're all really great candidates.  It's funny for a soft year for the conference we also had an influx of great players.
Casey won like 2 games in the second semester.

RichH

Quote from: Jim HylaAlec McCrea Named a Finalists  for League's Best Defensive Defenseman Award

Cornell Big Red's take on it.

Enough "Finalists" crapola. Let's talk actual hardware:

McCrea takes it.

I'm surprised they're announcing this today. Usually, they dump all the awards out of the box a day before the Lake Placid Semis.

upprdeck

cornell preseason 3rd wins title and 2nd in the country
union 6th finishes 2nd..
clarkson preseason 4-5 finishes 3rd, i dont think Casey has a shot

BearLover

Quote from: upprdeckcornell preseason 3rd wins title and 2nd in the country
union 6th finishes 2nd..
clarkson preseason 4-5 finishes 3rd, i dont think Casey has a shot
Plus, it's pretty silly to penalize a coach for his team having high expectations heading into the season, which is usually a product of recent/sustained success under that same coach...but I agree with you the voters for these CotY awards do seem to base their votes almost entirely on expectations vs. results.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: upprdeckcornell preseason 3rd wins title and 2nd in the country
union 6th finishes 2nd..
clarkson preseason 4-5 finishes 3rd, i dont think Casey has a shot
Plus, it's pretty silly to penalize a coach for his team having high expectations heading into the season, which is usually a product of recent/sustained success under that same coach...but I agree with you the voters for these CotY awards do seem to base their votes almost entirely on expectations vs. results.

Not necessarily.  Mike won in 2003 with a team predicted to win the ECACs.

Here is the table of improvement against the Coaches' poll.

+4 Union
+2 Cornell
-1 Clarkson

Note Dartmouth was also +4.

abmarks

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim HylaGalajda Named Finalist for ECAC League's Rookie of the Year Award
Galajda should win this one easily, I would think.

And I think Schafer will win, too.

Typical Bearlover- you love statistics, why not read some?

Tufto leads all freshman nationally in PPG and total points (1.14ppg), and he plays on a mediocre team.   Yet Galadja, plays for one of the best teams in the country, and Cornell gives up the fewest shots/game in the country (which ought to translate to Galadja seeing more clean shot attempts that are easier looks for him).

It's an easy win?

BearLover

Quote from: abmarksTypical Bearlover- you love statistics, why not read some?
I'm going to stop responding to you if you default to being rude.

Quote from: abmarksYet Galadja, plays for one of the best teams in the country
Usually players get a voting boost when their team is good.

Quote from: abmarksCornell gives up the fewest shots/game in the country (which ought to translate to Galadja seeing more clean shot attempts that are easier looks for him).
How does this follow?

Jim Hyla

You know you're having a good season when the first 3 stories on CornellBigRed.com are on hockey. And 4 of 5 and 5 of 7.:-)
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005


billhoward

Somebody at the formerly EZAC with a couple marketing courses under his or her belt decided a press release / award a day is going to garner more press.