Notre Dame to ACC

[nyc94]

All sports except football and hockey.  Football remains an independent but will play five ACC games a year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/sports/ncaafootball/notre-dame-to-join-acc-in-all-sports-but-football.html

[Rita]

All sports except football and hockey.  Football remains an independent but will play five ACC games a year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/sports/ncaafootball/notre-dame-to-join-acc-in-all-sports-but-football.html

Most headlines (including on ESPN) just say all sports but Football. Can't wait to see that ACC hockey conference in action. Maybe they will adopt UAH. ::rolleye::

[French Rage]

So ACC lacrosse will have Duke, UNC, UVA, Maryland, Syracuse, and Notre Dame?

[Chris '03]

So ACC lacrosse will have Duke, UNC, UVA, Maryland, Syracuse, and Notre Dame?

Leaving the Big East with Georgetown and.... maybe a short lived conference?

[ugarte]

All sports except football and hockey.  Football remains an independent but will play five ACC games a year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/sports/ncaafootball/notre-dame-to-join-acc-in-all-sports-but-football.html

Most headlines (including on ESPN) just say all sports but Football.

I'm with the media on this one. They say "... to the ACC in all sports but football" BECAUSE the ACC isn't a hockey conference, so it is implied that the hockey team isn't going to the ACC.

[billhoward]

The ACC and SEC schools playing hockey / club hockey, they have amazing pinup calendars.

[nyc94]

So ACC lacrosse will have Duke, UNC, UVA, Maryland, Syracuse, and Notre Dame?

Perhaps not.

[Trotsky]

So ACC lacrosse will have Duke, UNC, UVA, Maryland, Syracuse, and Notre Dame?

Perhaps not.

That's all anybody in Maryland is talking about this morning.  The impression here is it's a done deal.

Which just revives (for the thousandth time) the 16-team super conference idea, only this time as multi-regional.  Only a matter of time until the Big Ten poaches USC...  ::thud::

[Scersk '97]

I realize that it's all about access to TV markets, but this Maryland business makes no sense.  Rutgers does, in a way; Maryland doesn't.

It would be a bit of a stretch, considering the only recently better quality of its football team, but Temple would make far more sense than Maryland.  (And, of course, before the ACC Megafee made it all but impossible, Syracuse or Pittsburgh would also make much more sense.)

[Trotsky]

I realize that it's all about access to TV markets, but this Maryland business makes no sense.  Rutgers does, in a way; Maryland doesn't.

The idea is to capture DC, but even then insofar as there is any interest in college football in DC and NoVa (which there isn't) it's VaTech.

[phillysportsfan]

I realize that it's all about access to TV markets, but this Maryland business makes no sense.  Rutgers does, in a way; Maryland doesn't.

The idea is to capture DC, but even then insofar as there is any interest in college football in DC and NoVa (which there isn't) it's VaTech.

I dont understand how the math works out to make these conferences so much more money. People in Philly, NYC (Rutger's media markets) and Baltimore, DC (Maryland's media markets) dont really care about those college sports outside of the alumni. It is different than the South or Midwest where non alumni identify with the school such as Alabama or Kansas. Plus the Big Ten network doesnt come with the standard tv package, it costs an extra $5 a month. Does adding these schools make it part of the standard package?

The stupid part about all this expansion is the destruction of great rivalries and turning every away game into a plane flight not only for the basketball,football teams but for the fans and all the non revenue sports

[Swampy]

I realize that it's all about access to TV markets, but this Maryland business makes no sense.  Rutgers does, in a way; Maryland doesn't.

The idea is to capture DC, but even then insofar as there is any interest in college football in DC and NoVa (which there isn't) it's VaTech.

I dont understand how the math works out to make these conferences so much more money. People in Philly, NYC (Rutger's media markets) and Baltimore, DC (Maryland's media markets) dont really care about those college sports outside of the alumni. It is different than the South or Midwest where non alumni identify with the school such as Alabama or Kansas. Plus the Big Ten network doesnt come with the standard tv package, it costs an extra $5 a month. Does adding these schools make it part of the standard package?

The stupid part about all this expansion is the destruction of great rivalries and turning every away game into a plane flight not only for the basketball,football teams but for the fans and all the non revenue sports

I agree, but the AD's apparently don't. They dream of the day when the Big 10 will have as big a share of the NY & DC markets as it does in Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland. Hope springs eternal.

[billhoward]

I realize that it's all about access to TV markets, but this Maryland business makes no sense.  Rutgers does, in a way; Maryland doesn't.

The idea is to capture DC, but even then insofar as there is any interest in college football in DC and NoVa (which there isn't) it's VaTech.

I dont understand how the math works out to make these conferences so much more money. People in Philly, NYC (Rutger's media markets) and Baltimore, DC (Maryland's media markets) dont really care about those college sports outside of the alumni. It is different than the South or Midwest where non alumni identify with the school such as Alabama or Kansas. Plus the Big Ten network doesnt come with the standard tv package, it costs an extra $5 a month. Does adding these schools make it part of the standard package?

The stupid part about all this expansion is the destruction of great rivalries and turning every away game into a plane flight not only for the basketball,football teams but for the fans and all the non revenue sports

You're right about this being a boon to the airlines and about the loss of old rivalries. There's also the failure of basic math and geography. The Big Ten won't have 10 teams, just as the Big East or Atlantic Coast Conference may have a team from the Central or Mountain Time Zone. (Boise State, Big East.) But this may help create more fans in New York and Washington. Pre-Sandusky, a resident of the Northeast was happier with Penn State winning in football than Texas, with UConn winning in basketball than Kentucky. Now New Yorkers may (may) adopt Rutgers in football, DC residents Maryland.

Blame it all on ESPN, cable, and satellite. You can't fill all 500 channels with shopping (although QVC tries). Blame it also on colleges that say, "You need someone to play two time zones away on a Tuesday night for your Ten Days of Uninterrupted College Football? What's the guarantee?"

There definitely will be a smaller pool of Haves in football. If you're not in the SEC, Big Ten or Pac (?) Twelve, you may be overlooked.

[Trotsky]

Blame it all on ESPN, cable, and satellite.

Blaming ESPN for our culture's mindless and suicidal greed is the equivalent of blaming Don Cherry for our culture's bad fashion sense.

[Josh '99]

There definitely will be a smaller pool of Haves in football. If you're not in the SEC, Big Ten or Pac (?) Twelve, you may be overlooked.

How is this different from the way it is now?