Opponent and other news and results 2025-2026

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Weder

Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on April 22, 2026, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 01:01:00 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on April 22, 2026, 12:42:51 AMAnyone have any info on the schedule for next year? Will it just be the return trips from all the series this year? And any guesses for MSG? Will we use the extra Ivy game this year?
I've heard a few rumblings of some cool opponents coming to Lynah this year, if that helps :)

Don't keep us in suspense!
I'm sworn to secrecy, sadly, but I can say that, if my sources (I've heard this from multiple places) are correct, one of the teams that should be playing at Lynah next year will make me very happy ;)

Could it be the long-discussed BU-Cornell campus game in a non-RHH year??  ;D
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BearLover

#1246
A few weeks ago it was claimed that early departures are up, and that players like Hoyt Stanley leaving early is the norm. I'm not sure this is true. On his podcast this week, Brad Schlossman said early departures are down this season. Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of posts like this one:
https://x.com/DanielVConnolly/status/2046966239986163836?s=20

I am skeptical that it you looked at early departures on the aggregate, the number is higher than 5 or 10 years ago.

Chris '03

Quote from: BearLover on April 22, 2026, 11:56:00 AMA few weeks ago it was claimed that early departures are up, and that players like Hoyt Stanley leaving early is the norm. I'm not sure this is true. On his podcast this week, Brad Schlossman said early departures are down this season. Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of posts like this one:
https://x.com/DanielVConnolly/status/2046966239986163836?s=20

I am skeptical that it you looked at early departures on the aggregate, the number is higher than 5 or 10 years ago.

Didn't Isaac Howard make a big deal about returning to MSU last year before he signed over the summer? Feels early to draw any conclusions.
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stereax

I think in the new NIL era, there are more incentives not to leave early at many schools. (If you're getting full scholarship + some NIL cash, it feels like it would pay off to stay in college as opposed to going AHL/ECHL pro. But idk those numbers.) Gotta wait out the trend line, though.
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ugarte

Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on April 22, 2026, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 01:01:00 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on April 22, 2026, 12:42:51 AMAnyone have any info on the schedule for next year? Will it just be the return trips from all the series this year? And any guesses for MSG? Will we use the extra Ivy game this year?
I've heard a few rumblings of some cool opponents coming to Lynah this year, if that helps :)

Don't keep us in suspense!
I'm sworn to secrecy, sadly, but I can say that, if my sources (I've heard this from multiple places) are correct, one of the teams that should be playing at Lynah next year will make me very happy ;)
The NEW JERSEY DEVILS!?

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarte on April 22, 2026, 01:21:44 PM
Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on April 22, 2026, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 01:01:00 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on April 22, 2026, 12:42:51 AMAnyone have any info on the schedule for next year? Will it just be the return trips from all the series this year? And any guesses for MSG? Will we use the extra Ivy game this year?
I've heard a few rumblings of some cool opponents coming to Lynah this year, if that helps :)

Don't keep us in suspense!
I'm sworn to secrecy, sadly, but I can say that, if my sources (I've heard this from multiple places) are correct, one of the teams that should be playing at Lynah next year will make me very happy ;)
The NEW JERSEY DEVILS!?
"New Jersey's in New Jersey!"

stereax

Quote from: ugarte on April 22, 2026, 01:21:44 PM
Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on April 22, 2026, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: stereax on April 22, 2026, 01:01:00 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on April 22, 2026, 12:42:51 AMAnyone have any info on the schedule for next year? Will it just be the return trips from all the series this year? And any guesses for MSG? Will we use the extra Ivy game this year?
I've heard a few rumblings of some cool opponents coming to Lynah this year, if that helps :)

Don't keep us in suspense!
I'm sworn to secrecy, sadly, but I can say that, if my sources (I've heard this from multiple places) are correct, one of the teams that should be playing at Lynah next year will make me very happy ;)
The NEW JERSEY DEVILS!?
HAHAHAHAH I WISH 😂
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BearLover

Quote from: Chris '03 on April 22, 2026, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: BearLover on April 22, 2026, 11:56:00 AMA few weeks ago it was claimed that early departures are up, and that players like Hoyt Stanley leaving early is the norm. I'm not sure this is true. On his podcast this week, Brad Schlossman said early departures are down this season. Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of posts like this one:
https://x.com/DanielVConnolly/status/2046966239986163836?s=20

I am skeptical that it you looked at early departures on the aggregate, the number is higher than 5 or 10 years ago.

Didn't Isaac Howard make a big deal about returning to MSU last year before he signed over the summer? Feels early to draw any conclusions.
IIRC that was something the best player in all of college hockey did as leverage to force the team that drafted him to trade him. That's not the norm.

adamw

Quote from: BearLover on April 22, 2026, 11:56:00 AMA few weeks ago it was claimed that early departures are up, and that players like Hoyt Stanley leaving early is the norm. I'm not sure this is true. On his podcast this week, Brad Schlossman said early departures are down this season. Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of posts like this one:
https://x.com/DanielVConnolly/status/2046966239986163836?s=20

I am skeptical that it you looked at early departures on the aggregate, the number is higher than 5 or 10 years ago.

For schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k. This is of course very new - and too early to make widespread conclusions - but pretty sure that is the case with the UConn players and Michael Hage at Michigan. As with everything, there are many factors at play, and individual preferences.  Stanley was a full tuition student - no grants, academic aid, etc... - so no one has any issue with him signing a pro deal when Cornell isn't even allowed to give him squat.
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abmarks

Quote from: adamw on April 22, 2026, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on April 22, 2026, 11:56:00 AMA few weeks ago it was claimed that early departures are up, and that players like Hoyt Stanley leaving early is the norm. I'm not sure this is true. On his podcast this week, Brad Schlossman said early departures are down this season. Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of posts like this one:
https://x.com/DanielVConnolly/status/2046966239986163836?s=20

I am skeptical that it you looked at early departures on the aggregate, the number is higher than 5 or 10 years ago.

For schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k. This is of course very new - and too early to make widespread conclusions - but pretty sure that is the case with the UConn players and Michael Hage at Michigan. As with everything, there are many factors at play, and individual preferences.  Stanley was a full tuition student - no grants, academic aid, etc... - so no one has any issue with him signing a pro deal when Cornell isn't even allowed to give him squat.


Because nothing better than proving bearlover wrong. BL NOT vindicated. Early departures are down - very slightly this year vs last. But compared to 2020-2024?

(Data from CHN player tracker via internet archive. 2022 wasn't there.








BearLover

#1255
Quote from: abmarks on April 23, 2026, 06:40:20 AM
Quote from: adamw on April 22, 2026, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on April 22, 2026, 11:56:00 AMA few weeks ago it was claimed that early departures are up, and that players like Hoyt Stanley leaving early is the norm. I'm not sure this is true. On his podcast this week, Brad Schlossman said early departures are down this season. Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of posts like this one:
https://x.com/DanielVConnolly/status/2046966239986163836?s=20

I am skeptical that it you looked at early departures on the aggregate, the number is higher than 5 or 10 years ago.

For schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k. This is of course very new - and too early to make widespread conclusions - but pretty sure that is the case with the UConn players and Michael Hage at Michigan. As with everything, there are many factors at play, and individual preferences.  Stanley was a full tuition student - no grants, academic aid, etc... - so no one has any issue with him signing a pro deal when Cornell isn't even allowed to give him squat.


Because nothing better than proving bearlover wrong. BL NOT vindicated. Early departures are down - very slightly this year vs last. But compared to 2020-2024?

(Data from CHN player tracker via internet archive. 2022 wasn't there.








Can you post links to the data? I spot-checked one of your inputs (2024) and it was very wrong. I have no idea if this one is complete either, but the USCHO page for 2024 early departures lists 37 players: https://www.uscho.com/pro-signings-by-ncaa-hockey-players-2024-offseason

EDIT: I also checked 2023 on USCHO and that listed 39 players, so once again your number is wrong.

Trotsky

#1256
Quote from: adamw on April 22, 2026, 02:04:48 PMFor schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k.

When a player jumps to the pros, does he sign a guaranteed contract for the full season?  Pro-rated for the games remaining?  Do they get dental?  Are playoffs extra money?  I assume players are not ICs like golfers -- they don't have to pay for their own transportation, lodging, equipment, etc.  Do they get a per diem for food?

adamw

Quote from: Trotsky on April 23, 2026, 12:24:44 PM
Quote from: adamw on April 22, 2026, 02:04:48 PMFor schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k.

When a player jumps to the pros, does he sign a guaranteed contract for the full season?  Pro-rated for the games remaining?  Do they get dental?  Are playoffs extra money?  I assume players are not ICs like golfers -- they don't have to pay for their own transportation, lodging, equipment, etc.  Do they get a per diem for food?

they get all of the above
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marty

Quote from: adamw on April 23, 2026, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on April 23, 2026, 12:24:44 PM
Quote from: adamw on April 22, 2026, 02:04:48 PMFor schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k.

When a player jumps to the pros, does he sign a guaranteed contract for the full season?  Pro-rated for the games remaining?  Do they get dental?  Are playoffs extra money?  I assume players are not ICs like golfers -- they don't have to pay for their own transportation, lodging, equipment, etc.  Do they get a per diem for food?

they get all of the above

How good is the dental?  ;D
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stereax

Quote from: adamw on April 23, 2026, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on April 23, 2026, 12:24:44 PM
Quote from: adamw on April 22, 2026, 02:04:48 PMFor schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k.

When a player jumps to the pros, does he sign a guaranteed contract for the full season?  Pro-rated for the games remaining?  Do they get dental?  Are playoffs extra money?  I assume players are not ICs like golfers -- they don't have to pay for their own transportation, lodging, equipment, etc.  Do they get a per diem for food?

they get all of the above
playoffs aren't paid for under the contract's money but there's a playoff "pool" that pays out for playoffs. also, pretty sure a lot of nhl teams pay under the table for it anyway.

if you sign an ELC starting this year, the SB is paid in full, the money of the general contract i think is prorated though.

and yeah, as adam said, you get your stuff paid for and a per diem to graze with.
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