Opponent and other news and results 2025-2026

Started by Chris '03, August 08, 2025, 09:36:19 PM

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Chris '03

"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Iceberg

Turned around a historically weak program and led a team to a surprising championship run. Too bad about the recent years but the team probably needed an overdue change anyway behind the bench.

George64

Article in today's Rochester D&C featuring Ryan Walsh and another Rochester-area hockey standout.  Interestingly, it mentions that Ryan had offseason surgery for an injury that "dates back two years."
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stereax

Quote from: George64Article in today's Rochester D&C featuring Ryan Walsh and another Rochester-area hockey standout.  Interestingly, it mentions that Ryan had offseason surgery for an injury that "dates back two years."
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What is it with hockey players and not getting offseason surgeries until, like, 3 years after the injury happened???

Trotsky

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: George64Article in today's Rochester D&C featuring Ryan Walsh and another Rochester-area hockey standout.  Interestingly, it mentions that Ryan had offseason surgery for an injury that "dates back two years."
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What is it with hockey players and not getting offseason surgeries until, like, 3 years after the injury happened???
1. Denial.
2. Pressure to keep playing.
3. Fear the surgery won't work and the dream is over.

I get it.  They're human.  We all lie to ourselves even when it's counter-productive.  Now add they are also still children with no life experience.  If they made good decisions it would be weird.

stereax

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: George64Article in today's Rochester D&C featuring Ryan Walsh and another Rochester-area hockey standout.  Interestingly, it mentions that Ryan had offseason surgery for an injury that "dates back two years."
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What is it with hockey players and not getting offseason surgeries until, like, 3 years after the injury happened???
1. Denial.
2. Pressure to keep playing.
3. Fear the surgery won't work and the dream is over.

I get it.  They're human.  We all lie to ourselves even when it's counter-productive.  Now add they are also still children with no life experience.  If they made good decisions it would be weird.
That's fair, but I swear every single offseason in the NHL too it's like "Jesper Bratt has had a shoulder issue for 2 years and he's finally getting surgery for it"...

ugarte

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: George64Article in today's Rochester D&C featuring Ryan Walsh and another Rochester-area hockey standout.  Interestingly, it mentions that Ryan had offseason surgery for an injury that "dates back two years."
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What is it with hockey players and not getting offseason surgeries until, like, 3 years after the injury happened???
1. Denial.
2. Pressure to keep playing.
3. Fear the surgery won't work and the dream is over.

I get it.  They're human.  We all lie to ourselves even when it's counter-productive.  Now add they are also still children with no life experience.  If they made good decisions it would be weird.
That's fair, but I swear every single offseason in the NHL too it's like "Jesper Bratt has had a shoulder issue for 2 years and he's finally getting surgery for it"...
pain is part of the bargain. if it doesn't keep you from playing and it degrades slowly enough, you get the surgery when you HAVE TO. careers are short. you basically can't come back until you're 100% and it's a grind to get back to exactly where you are right now when it hurts like hell sometimes but you're still good enough to skate and there's a guy right there with cortisone.

ursusminor

Talking about out long with an injury. I do think that he had surgery back in 2021. Neutral Zone in a public post wrote it better than I could.

QuoteMatthew Jovanovic (D, L, 6'2,  201, No team, 09/22/2004, RPI)

Jovanovic has not played a competitive game since the 2020-21 season as a member of the USHL's Des Moines Buccaneers. He has been out all this time due to injury and never even got to play for the Saginaw Spirit – the OHL team that drafted him. RPI has given him a chance to comeback and play the game he loves again.

They have dropped him from 4.5 to 4.0 stars.

Trotsky

Elite Prospects currently lists Yale has having 8 players, each with 0 games of experience.  They're gonna get a lot of ice time.

The Rancor

Quote from: TrotskyElite Prospects currently lists Yale has having 8 players, each with 0 games of experience.  They're gonna get a lot of ice time.

12.5% of the team is Finnish.

Is this really the entire team?

Trotsky

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Quote from: TrotskyElite Prospects currently lists Yale has having 8 players, each with 0 games of experience.  They're gonna get a lot of ice time.

12.5% of the team is Finnish.

Is this really the entire team?
The locker room would smell better but no goalie is a bold move Cotton.

The Rancor


BearLover

CollegeHockeyNXT, which is a website/social media account that follows college hockey, lists Ben Robertson on the "all-portal second team." But it also lists Luke Ashton as part of the "all-portal third team." I have no idea if CollegeHockeyNXT is a reliable source at all. It may be run by some kid in his parents' basement.

I'm still very irked that Roberson transferred out. In part because he was our best defenseman and now we have zero returning LHD. But also in part because I'm not sure what it means long term. Are we going to continue losing our best players to NIL schools? UMich is now number 1 on my most hated teams. Yes, above Quinnipiac. BU is also above Quinnipiac now.

Trotsky

The blueline lost Robertson but picked up Fisher and Ashton, both NHL draft choices.  That sounds like a net gain.

As to the reasons, we just don't know the details of the specific cases, so we don't know if they are systemic and repeatable or personal and unique.  We'll need years of results to see if this will make a significant difference in either direction for the team.

I would analogize Robertson leaving to an employee leaving: your employer is using you as a fungible asset.  You owe them nothing.  Move as freely as they would axe you for the slightest reason or even on a whim.

Your family loves you; love them.  Cornell doesn't give a shit about you; act accordingly.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyThe blueline lost Robertson but picked up Fisher and Ashton, both NHL draft choices.  That sounds like a net gain.
We'll see. At the moment, Robertson is more valuable than Fisher and Ashton put together. Fisher had (has?) a lot of potential but has been injured and has not produced for most of the last several seasons. While he is a draft pick, he is not on track to play professionally. That can all change, of course, but that's the current state of affairs.

Ashton is intriguing. Huge player that put up monster numbers in the BCHL one season. It didn't fully translate to Minnesota State last year, but he did produce some.

In sum, Robertson is a known quantity great collegiate player. Fisher and Ashton are not, though there is some potential there. Also, two players are better than one, and they each have three years of remaining eligibility to Robertson's two. So right now I give the advantage to Robertson, but it's subject to change.