Opponent and other news and results 2025-2026

[BearLover]

Cournoyer entering portal. Competing for national titles was fun while it lasted.

siiigh. this too shall pass... but HOLY FUCK is it annoying.

how much money is being thrown at him?

Not trying to relitigate this but highly doubt it's about money

He's the starter at a good hockey team that makes the NCAAs on the regular. Why would you transfer out if it wasn't scholarship/other money?

Before I read 4 more pages on this... I called it. Oh well. Who's next?

No like - when I saw it I was like "well, of course he got NIL baited to transfer, there's no other reason to leave Cornell, a program that develops good goalies and is always competitive" and literally nothing I have heard since disconceives me of that notion.

And everyone is overlooking the possibility that THIS was the NIL pit-stop for Courns. Some Dough Ray Me for one season with a VERY talented returning core... IDK but it's adieu Mon Amie! I've also said, as have you Stereax, that it might be the school. If he's been in Juniors in Quebec the last 3 years, he hasn't done a lot of homework, outside of RVH training. CHL guys aren't super into books, math or much other than hockey.

edit addition: It could also be his agent or the Canadians. Maybe they want him somewhere else, for any number of reasons. Like, money.

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

[The Rancor]

Cournoyer entering portal. Competing for national titles was fun while it lasted.

siiigh. this too shall pass... but HOLY FUCK is it annoying.

how much money is being thrown at him?

Not trying to relitigate this but highly doubt it's about money

He's the starter at a good hockey team that makes the NCAAs on the regular. Why would you transfer out if it wasn't scholarship/other money?

Before I read 4 more pages on this... I called it. Oh well. Who's next?

No like - when I saw it I was like "well, of course he got NIL baited to transfer, there's no other reason to leave Cornell, a program that develops good goalies and is always competitive" and literally nothing I have heard since disconceives me of that notion.

And everyone is overlooking the possibility that THIS was the NIL pit-stop for Courns. Some Dough Ray Me for one season with a VERY talented returning core... IDK but it's adieu Mon Amie! I've also said, as have you Stereax, that it might be the school. If he's been in Juniors in Quebec the last 3 years, he hasn't done a lot of homework, outside of RVH training. CHL guys aren't super into books, math or much other than hockey.

edit addition: It could also be his agent or the Canadians. Maybe they want him somewhere else, for any number of reasons. Like, money.

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

You don't get it.

[BearLover]

Cournoyer entering portal. Competing for national titles was fun while it lasted.

siiigh. this too shall pass... but HOLY FUCK is it annoying.

how much money is being thrown at him?

Not trying to relitigate this but highly doubt it's about money

He's the starter at a good hockey team that makes the NCAAs on the regular. Why would you transfer out if it wasn't scholarship/other money?

Before I read 4 more pages on this... I called it. Oh well. Who's next?

No like - when I saw it I was like "well, of course he got NIL baited to transfer, there's no other reason to leave Cornell, a program that develops good goalies and is always competitive" and literally nothing I have heard since disconceives me of that notion.

And everyone is overlooking the possibility that THIS was the NIL pit-stop for Courns. Some Dough Ray Me for one season with a VERY talented returning core... IDK but it's adieu Mon Amie! I've also said, as have you Stereax, that it might be the school. If he's been in Juniors in Quebec the last 3 years, he hasn't done a lot of homework, outside of RVH training. CHL guys aren't super into books, math or much other than hockey.

edit addition: It could also be his agent or the Canadians. Maybe they want him somewhere else, for any number of reasons. Like, money.

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

You don't get it.

I'm glad to hear that from you given how misinformed you've been in general and about me specifically

[stereax]

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

Under that argument, expect Veilleux to enter the portal I guess. Also guys like Mosko and Psenicka.

And again - there are plenty of classes at Cornell, from my understanding, you could put someone who isn't "academically talented" just to get them through it for the sake of the hockey team.

Plus, for all we know, he's got straight As. Just because he isn't a first-language English speaker doesn't mean he's stupid, ya know. The argument that CHL-raised guys tend to be more blockheaded is somewhat compelling (and true), but it feels weird to speculate on a freshman's grades lol. (Plus, iirc, didn't Cournoyer want to do USports originally, before becoming Very Good and getting CHL/NCAA interest?)

[George64]

Yeah, but why Cornell then?  I'm sure he also had looks from the very western contenders he is rumored to be looking at now. 

I thought, perhaps naively, that if a player chose Cornell that indicated the education, or at least the designer label, factored in.  I am super disappointed of course, but more I am surprised, and I have been in enough weird situations that I am hard to surprise at this point.  This doesn't make sense to me unless it is purely mercenary and some program and/or alum dropped a shit ton of payola on him.  In which case, vaya con Dios.

From The Atlantic (04/04/26):

"In a paper first published in 2023 and updated last summer, [Brown University economist John] Friedman, along with [Harvard economist Raj] Chetty and the Harvard economist David Deming, quantified the advantage that students gain from attending an elite university. They found that students who attend an Ivy Plus university are 50 percent more likely to be in the top 1 percent of earnings by age 33, twice as likely to go to an elite graduate school, and three times as likely to work at a set of prestigious firms than if they attend a flagship public university. On average, their income is $101,000 higher a decade after graduation."

That's for a flagship public university, not Whatsamatter U.  We need to remind our recruits to think about the long run, not just short-term gains.

[BearLover]

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

Under that argument, expect Veilleux to enter the portal I guess. Also guys like Mosko and Psenicka.

And again - there are plenty of classes at Cornell, from my understanding, you could put someone who isn't "academically talented" just to get them through it for the sake of the hockey team.

Plus, for all we know, he's got straight As. Just because he isn't a first-language English speaker doesn't mean he's stupid, ya know. The argument that CHL-raised guys tend to be more blockheaded is somewhat compelling (and true), but it feels weird to speculate on a freshman's grades lol. (Plus, iirc, didn't Cournoyer want to do USports originally, before becoming Very Good and getting CHL/NCAA interest?)

It's not an argument - it's just me listing off potential reasons why school might be hard for him. Psenicka had great grades, Veilleux was committed to Harvard prior to Cornell and chose the USHL over the CHL to pursue a college education. Everyone is different, obviously. If Veilleux were to enter the portal, I'd be certain school was not the reason. For Cournoyer, I have a different feeling...which is, of course, speculative, just llike anything else we can say right now.

[BearLover]

Yeah, but why Cornell then?  I'm sure he also had looks from the very western contenders he is rumored to be looking at now. 

I thought, perhaps naively, that if a player chose Cornell that indicated the education, or at least the designer label, factored in.  I am super disappointed of course, but more I am surprised, and I have been in enough weird situations that I am hard to surprise at this point.  This doesn't make sense to me unless it is purely mercenary and some program and/or alum dropped a shit ton of payola on him.  In which case, vaya con Dios.

From The Atlantic (04/04/26):

"In a paper first published in 2023 and updated last summer, [Brown University economist John] Friedman, along with [Harvard economist Raj] Chetty and the Harvard economist David Deming, quantified the advantage that students gain from attending an elite university. They found that students who attend an Ivy Plus university are 50 percent more likely to be in the top 1 percent of earnings by age 33, twice as likely to go to an elite graduate school, and three times as likely to work at a set of prestigious firms than if they attend a flagship public university. On average, their income is $101,000 higher a decade after graduation."

That's for a flagship public university, not Whatsamatter U.  We need to remind our recruits to think about the long run, not just short-term gains.

I wish we had just gone with Keopple this year. Kid waited three years to start, and when he did play he had great numbers, better than Cournoyer's actually. Yes, he wasn't actually as good as Cournoyer, but I don't think the difference was big enough to justify rocking the boat. Casey went for the shiny object and got burned.

[stereax]

Yeah, but why Cornell then?  I'm sure he also had looks from the very western contenders he is rumored to be looking at now. 

I thought, perhaps naively, that if a player chose Cornell that indicated the education, or at least the designer label, factored in.  I am super disappointed of course, but more I am surprised, and I have been in enough weird situations that I am hard to surprise at this point.  This doesn't make sense to me unless it is purely mercenary and some program and/or alum dropped a shit ton of payola on him.  In which case, vaya con Dios.

From The Atlantic (04/04/26):

"In a paper first published in 2023 and updated last summer, [Brown University economist John] Friedman, along with [Harvard economist Raj] Chetty and the Harvard economist David Deming, quantified the advantage that students gain from attending an elite university. They found that students who attend an Ivy Plus university are 50 percent more likely to be in the top 1 percent of earnings by age 33, twice as likely to go to an elite graduate school, and three times as likely to work at a set of prestigious firms than if they attend a flagship public university. On average, their income is $101,000 higher a decade after graduation."

That's for a flagship public university, not Whatsamatter U.  We need to remind our recruits to think about the long run, not just short-term gains.

I wish we had just gone with Keopple this year. Kid waited three years to start, and when he did play he had great numbers, better than Cournoyer's actually. Yes, he wasn't actually as good as Cournoyer, but I don't think the difference was big enough to justify rocking the boat. Casey went for the shiny object and got burned.

the fun thing is even if we went with keopple and never brought courns in we'd be in the exact same boat.

only difference is we'd be aware in october that we need a goalie next year.

also, it's obviously going to be surprising to us, but you'd have to assume that casey and company had some sort of idea where courns's head was throughout the year... if DONALDSON knew enough to be tweeting about it...

[Trotsky]

Yeah, but why Cornell then?  I'm sure he also had looks from the very western contenders he is rumored to be looking at now. 

I thought, perhaps naively, that if a player chose Cornell that indicated the education, or at least the designer label, factored in.  I am super disappointed of course, but more I am surprised, and I have been in enough weird situations that I am hard to surprise at this point.  This doesn't make sense to me unless it is purely mercenary and some program and/or alum dropped a shit ton of payola on him.  In which case, vaya con Dios.

From The Atlantic (04/04/26):

"In a paper first published in 2023 and updated last summer, [Brown University economist John] Friedman, along with [Harvard economist Raj] Chetty and the Harvard economist David Deming, quantified the advantage that students gain from attending an elite university. They found that students who attend an Ivy Plus university are 50 percent more likely to be in the top 1 percent of earnings by age 33, twice as likely to go to an elite graduate school, and three times as likely to work at a set of prestigious firms than if they attend a flagship public university. On average, their income is $101,000 higher a decade after graduation."

That's for a flagship public university, not Whatsamatter U.  We need to remind our recruits to think about the long run, not just short-term gains.

I've been out of the statistics business for 25 years and I can think of at least 8 ways in which that study might be utter methodological bullshit.

But it's a cudgel we can use.  It doesn't matter if it's true.

[BearLover]

Yeah, but why Cornell then?  I'm sure he also had looks from the very western contenders he is rumored to be looking at now. 

I thought, perhaps naively, that if a player chose Cornell that indicated the education, or at least the designer label, factored in.  I am super disappointed of course, but more I am surprised, and I have been in enough weird situations that I am hard to surprise at this point.  This doesn't make sense to me unless it is purely mercenary and some program and/or alum dropped a shit ton of payola on him.  In which case, vaya con Dios.

From The Atlantic (04/04/26):

"In a paper first published in 2023 and updated last summer, [Brown University economist John] Friedman, along with [Harvard economist Raj] Chetty and the Harvard economist David Deming, quantified the advantage that students gain from attending an elite university. They found that students who attend an Ivy Plus university are 50 percent more likely to be in the top 1 percent of earnings by age 33, twice as likely to go to an elite graduate school, and three times as likely to work at a set of prestigious firms than if they attend a flagship public university. On average, their income is $101,000 higher a decade after graduation."

That's for a flagship public university, not Whatsamatter U.  We need to remind our recruits to think about the long run, not just short-term gains.

I wish we had just gone with Keopple this year. Kid waited three years to start, and when he did play he had great numbers, better than Cournoyer's actually. Yes, he wasn't actually as good as Cournoyer, but I don't think the difference was big enough to justify rocking the boat. Casey went for the shiny object and got burned.

the fun thing is even if we went with keopple and never brought courns in we'd be in the exact same boat.

only difference is we'd be aware in october that we need a goalie next year.

also, it's obviously going to be surprising to us, but you'd have to assume that casey and company had some sort of idea where courns's head was throughout the year... if DONALDSON knew enough to be tweeting about it...

It isn't clear what Donaldson was tweeting about. He may have just been trolling about Wallace going to St. Thomas.

Cournoyer surely told his teammates and coaches ahead of time but I doubt anyone knew until the season was over.

In a way, this is freeing. If losing our best players is going to be the norm then we can freely stop paying attention to this team and so much time opens up for our other pursuits. 

[tretiak]

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

Under that argument, expect Veilleux to enter the portal I guess. Also guys like Mosko and Psenicka.

And again - there are plenty of classes at Cornell, from my understanding, you could put someone who isn't "academically talented" just to get them through it for the sake of the hockey team.

That's the Dave McKee curriculum for jocks who can't read good and want to learn to do other stuff good too.

[stereax]

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

Under that argument, expect Veilleux to enter the portal I guess. Also guys like Mosko and Psenicka.

And again - there are plenty of classes at Cornell, from my understanding, you could put someone who isn't "academically talented" just to get them through it for the sake of the hockey team.

That's the Dave McKee curriculum for jocks who can't read good and want to learn to do other stuff good too.

What's the story behind this one..?

[stereax]

also humble request to any cornell hockey affiliated people that may be reading this forum: today (04/15) is my birthday. woot, or something. idk. i'm already in hell with assignments because i have two essays due today that i haven't started yet, plus i've got three hours of makeup classes in the afternoon that ensure i'll get home no earlier than 7 pm, absolutely drained and in no mood to do anything except curl up in bed and cry myself to sleep. and i don't even have a cake or anything like that to "celebrate". AND the devils are bad and got shut out by the boston fucking bruins, but they're not bad enough to be in lottery range. so can you pretty please, with sugar on top, put a leash on any other possible pro signings/transfers out/whatever until tomorrow? because the cournoyer one was already a kick in the balls. please? i don't need any more reasons to be sad. life sucks enough already. thanks for your consideration. <3

[tretiak]

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

Under that argument, expect Veilleux to enter the portal I guess. Also guys like Mosko and Psenicka.

And again - there are plenty of classes at Cornell, from my understanding, you could put someone who isn't "academically talented" just to get them through it for the sake of the hockey team.

That's the Dave McKee curriculum for jocks who can't read good and want to learn to do other stuff good too.

What's the story behind this one..?

Every 4-5 year period has a poster child for athlete that struggles to maintain eligibility. McKee was the starting goalie in the mid-00s. Took the bare minimum course load across fall, spring, and summer to stay eligible.

Chris Bourque (Ray's son) at BU was the most famous hockey player to fail out of school that I remember.

[stereax]

(Academics also makes sense as a contributing factor, but I doubt he'd transfer solely because classes hard. I'm sure they'd put that kid in wine tasting and napkin rolling and call it a day.)

Unless he's on the verge of failing out. School probably hasn't been a priority for him for a long time, English isn't his first language, he just wants to play hockey.

If Cornell is a pit stop on the way to the Big 10 then I'd suggest people here figure out something else to do on their Friday and Saturday nights.

Under that argument, expect Veilleux to enter the portal I guess. Also guys like Mosko and Psenicka.

And again - there are plenty of classes at Cornell, from my understanding, you could put someone who isn't "academically talented" just to get them through it for the sake of the hockey team.

That's the Dave McKee curriculum for jocks who can't read good and want to learn to do other stuff good too.

What's the story behind this one..?

Every 4-5 year period has a poster child for athlete that struggles to maintain eligibility. McKee was the starting goalie in the mid-00s. Took the bare minimum course load across fall, spring, and summer to stay eligible.

Chris Bourque (Ray's son) at BU was the most famous hockey player to fail out of school that I remember.

Anecdotally, I've heard guys like Eichel and Zegras had piss poor GPAs because they knew they'd be in the NHL soon enough, lol.

But the McKee curriculum is funny as hell.