Men’s Basketball 23-24

Started by George64, September 14, 2023, 09:18:06 AM

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ugarte

Quote from: chimpfoodNo votes in the polls this week. I certainly don't think that we're a top 25 team in the country but it's a bit confusing to lose our coaches poll votes after winning two on the road this week.
one of them was a white-knuckler against Dartmouth. makes sense to me, if the voter was someone actually paying attention to us.

CU2007

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: chimpfoodNo votes in the polls this week. I certainly don't think that we're a top 25 team in the country but it's a bit confusing to lose our coaches poll votes after winning two on the road this week.
one of them was a white-knuckler against Dartmouth. makes sense to me, if the voter was someone actually paying attention to us.

Maybe it was an "atta boy" courtesy vote and now back to your regularly scheduled programming

rss77

Cornell ranked 9th in College Insider mid-major rankings.  Princeton 5th and Yale at 17

George64

Quote from: CU2007Maybe it was an "atta boy" courtesy vote and now back to your regularly scheduled programming

To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield - "We Don't Get No Respect!"

mountainred

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: upprdeckIf they win out and lose the last Game there is a slight chance of an At large bid.
very slight. our SOS going forward isn't great since our best opponents (2-3 games v Yale, 1-2 games v Princeton including at least one loss) are fringe at-large candidates as well. Syracuse being ranked on par with Yale and GMU being roughly on par with us are our two best non-Ivy opponents and they are both losses. I assume we have to win the ILT but also assume we are very good NIT candidates if we finish second.

It is probably safe to think "win the ILT or bust."  Our best out of conference wins are Colgate and Monmouth or Fordham; I just don't see that getting us in over a power conference team. Along those lines, the NCAA "tweaked" the NIT this offseason. Conference regular-season champions that do not win their conference tournament no longer get an automatic bid to the NIT.  Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams from each of the big six conferences (ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC) a bid.  So, there are just 20 open slots for an Ivy, and, yes, the power six conferences can send even more to the NIT. Wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA just uses their new all-purpose metric, the NET ranking, where Cornell sits 80th as I type this.

BearLover

If hypothetically Cornell did run the table until it lost the Ivy final, we would be 26-4. In my eyes, that would certainly make us deserving of the NCAA tournament. When your record is that good, the fact you don't have any wins over top teams shouldn't be disqualifying. Winning 87% of your games is extremely difficult. In that scenario we would also be nationally ranked. I think we'd get an at-large bid. This is obviously all hypothetical and is very unlikely to occur.

ugarte

FYI, the ILT is at Columbia and buying all-session tickets is a pain in the ass online. The online system doesn't filter out tickets that are no longer available for all sessions, so you keep getting "sorry, try again" messages. I ultimately wrote to their box office and ordered by phone. (lionstickets@columbia.edu)

Trotsky

How do they choose the ILT location?  Does it rotate?

chimpfood

Yeah it rotates. Cornell is scheduled to host next year but I'm also seeing that this year was supposed to be at brown so it seems like there could be a change.

nyc94

Quote from: TrotskyHow do they choose the ILT location?  Does it rotate?

Yes but they have already deviated from the preannounced schedule. This year was supposed to be Brown but will be at Columbia. Cornell is supposed to host in 2025.

"The future of the rotation remains under continuous evaluation."
https://ivyhoopsonline.com/2023/02/08/2024-ivy-league-tournaments-moved-from-brown-to-columbia/

djk26

David Klesh ILR '02

dbilmes

Quote from: djk26College sports as we know it may be over.

NLRB rules that Dartmouth basketball players can unionize
Rick Pitino isn't one of my favorite people, but in the aftermath of this ruling he actually made a suggestion which I've been saying for a long time. He's calling for colleges to pay salaries to the athletes, and quit the facade (at least at many schools) of the "student-athlete." Just pay them to play for their schools and have a salary cap.
Pitino tweeted Tuesday that the major conferences in college basketball should join forces and create a salary cap of up to $2 million. He did not specify if that number would include name, image and likeness payments or funding directly from schools.
"For basketball, have the Power 5 [and] Big East conference commissioners get together and create a salary cap between [$1.5 and $2 million]," Pitino tweeted. "All contracts delivered to the league and school offices.

"Do away with letters of intent, make athletes sign a [two-year] binding contract, no different than professional athletes -- which they are," Pitino tweeted. "With that, the [NIL] collective puts together their NIL contract based on the cap. Obviously, a lot has to go into this. I believe the NCAA should be taken out of the equation and the commissioners put into it as the NCAA loses more cases than the defense lawyers on 'Law & Order.'"


Trotsky


upprdeck

if the players want to unionize and lose rights you can make it work..

But he is talking BBALL 2 million.  

The difference between the worst team in pro sports is far less the 300 in college basketball.

Will the kids at Purdue that get 2 million be happy that the kids at Sw Shaneee state get 2 million?  Could those low level teams even afford it?