Men’s Basketball 23-24

[chimpfood]

Honestly I doubt that this will have a major affect on college sports but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

[mike1960]

Colleges used the term "student athletes," esp. those generating massive wealth for schools, so that the colleges could avoid calling them employees. The colleges' rationale was that the "student athlete" received a more or less free education in scholarship in exchange for their play for the school. This was a fiction that benefitted schools with large athletic programs, not the athletes. I don't have an answer, but labor deserves fair compensation.

Or maybe I do have an answer. Call them "student employees," which is what they are, and pay them a max 20 hours a week, which is where student employees are often capped. The would be subject to all the benefits and requirements of other school employees.

[upprdeck]

Colleges used the term "student athletes," esp. those generating massive wealth for schools, so that the colleges could avoid calling them employees. The colleges' rationale was that the "student athlete" received a more or less free education in scholarship in exchange for their play for the school. This was a fiction that benefitted schools with large athletic programs, not the athletes. I don't have an answer, but labor deserves fair compensation.

Or maybe I do have an answer. Call them "student employees," which is what they are, and pay them a max 20 hours a week, which is where student employees are often capped. The would be subject to all the benefits and requirements of other school employees.

when they become an employee they also will find out a lot of things they take for granted go away.

[Trotsky]

when they become an employee they also will find out a lot of things they take for granted go away.

-- George Fitzhugh

Crime and pauperism have increased. Riots, trades unions, strikes for higher wages, discontent breaking out into revolution, are things of daily occurrence, and show that the poor see and feel quite as clearly as the philosophers, that their condition is far worse under the new than under the old order of things. Radicalism and Chartism in England owe their birth to the free and equal institutions of her commercial and manufacturing districts, and are little heard of in the quiet farming districts, where remnants of feudalism still exist in the relation of landlord and tenant, and in the laws of entail and primogeniture

[upprdeck]

cornell + 5.5 vs yale tomorrow for first place

[Mr. Niss]

Last I saw is +7.5.  I don't get it.  Seems like a lot.  I expected +4.5 or +5.

I also don't understand why ESPNU has Duquesne vs. St. Bonaventure at 2 PM.  This would seem to be a much better game to show.  Bigger audience, actual relevance.

I don't understand a lot.  Still wondering if I really graduated.

[nyc94]

"This marks just the fifth time in Ivy League men's basketball history that two 6-0 or better teams will square off. The most recent occurrence was on Feb. 15, 2003 when Penn (6-0) and Brown (7-0) clashed at The Palestra. Penn won that contest 73-66."

https://ivyleague.com/news/2024/2/7/mens-basketball-mbb-preview.aspx

[Mr. Niss]

The fear, of course, is that we won't shoot this well the rest of the game.  We have shown, however, that our defense is good enough to keep a game from getting away from us and give us a chance to withstand a cold spurt.  Hopefully we won't have to worry about that at all today.  This is a great first 12 minutes.

[Al DeFlorio]

Getting sloppy with the big lead.  Now up 9 with Yale ball.  Make it 7.  Back to 9 with Red timeout to take last shot of half.  Missed last shot, then fouled Yale with 1 second.  Up 8 at half.

[chimpfood]

Good half but we gotta play cleaner defense and do better on wolf. Yale complaining about every call and no call is driving me nuts already, especially when these announcers back them up.

[Mr. Niss]

Good half but we gotta play cleaner defense and do better on wolf. Yale complaining about every call and no call is driving me nuts already, especially when these announcers back them up.

I couldn't agree with this more, in all respects.  I can't listen to this female broadcaster complain about Wolf's "touch fouls" as they call a clown foul on Gray with 1 second left.  I thought the officiating in that first half was good, generally.  We need to stop with the dumb fouls again.

[ugarte]

Good half but we gotta play cleaner defense and do better on wolf. Yale complaining about every call and no call is driving me nuts already, especially when these announcers back them up.

I couldn't agree with this more, in all respects.  I can't listen to this female broadcaster complain about Wolf's "touch fouls" as they call a clown foul on Gray with 1 second left.  I thought the officiating in that first half was good, generally.  We need to stop with the dumb fouls again.

overreacting a little imo. i think they are sharp as a pair and very complimentary of the way cornell is playing.

[mike1960]

Unnecessary fouls.

[ugarte]

Unnecessary fouls.

ok now I'm getting mad at them. some unnecessary, some tickytack. yale has 0 fouls on them and the booth is complaining about no-calls?

[mike1960]

Ill-advised Boothby 3.