Bracketology 2016-17 Style

[Jim Hyla]

Is there any benefit (Pairwise speaking) to finishing fifth in the league and picking up two extra (seemingly easy) wins? I understand the benefit of a bye week and home ice in the quarterfinals, just kind of brain storming.

Considering how bad the records of RPI and Brown, one of which will likely be 12th, are. I doubt that those wins would be worth much.

Nor necessarily easy!

[CU2007]

All fair points. I'm not an expert on the calculations, so it was more just the thought that you'd be given the opportunity to win two extra games that popped into my mind and then presumably end up in the same 4-5 quarterfinal, albeit on the road.

[GBR1234]

For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?

[upprdeck]

doesnt it pretty much net out ?  but it would help they win the 2nd game

[Jim Hyla]

This week.

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[b][u]East Regional (Providence):[/u][/b]
14 Vermont vs. 4 Minnesota
10 Boston College vs. [b][u]7 Union[/u][/b]

[b][u]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/u][/b]
[b][u]13 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 3 Boston University
12 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. [b][u]5 Harvard[/u][/b]

[b][u]Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):[/u][/b]
15 Air Force vs. 2 Denver
11 Penn State vs. 6 Western Michigan

[b][u]West Regional (Fargo):[/u][/b]
16 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
9 North Dakota vs. 8 Providence
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 3[/u][/b]
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Movement

In: [b][u]Cornell[/u][/b], Air Force
Out: Wisconsin, Canisius



[b][u]His second choice is:[/u][/b]

[b][u]East Regional (Providence):[/u][/b]
15 Air Force vs. 2 Denver
11 Penn State vs. 8 Providence

[b][u]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/u][/b]
[b][u]13 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 3 Boston University
12 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. [b][u]7 Union[/u][/b]

[b][u]Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):[/u][/b]
16 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
10 Boston College vs. 6 Western Michigan

[b][u]West Regional (Fargo):[/u][/b]
14 Vermont vs. 4 Minnesota
9 North Dakota vs. [b][u]5 Harvard[/u][/b]

I don't like it as it rewards #8 Providence, just for being in Providence, and punishes Harvard.

I'm not one of the Harvard haters. I'd rather preserve "good play gives good results".

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2017/02/08/minnesota-duluth-remains-atop-pairwise-rankings/#ixzz4Y64t8GfO




[upprdeck]

i wonder why providence wasnt the host and brown was?  dont sometime schools split it?

[ugarte]

i wonder why providence wasnt the host and brown was?  dont sometime schools split it?

If they elect to bid together. Maybe Brown doesn't want to subject their Athletic Department to the work of being the host school if the chances of getting the home ice advantage are close to zero.

[Jim Hyla]

i wonder why providence wasnt the host and brown was?  dont sometime schools split it?

If they elect to bid together. Maybe Brown doesn't want to subject their Athletic Department to the work of being the host school if the chances of getting the home ice advantage are close to zero.

? But Brown is the host school.

[upprdeck]

I wonder why they dont jointly host in hope 1 gets in and that one does the heavy lifting when it gets closer.  maybe they cant anymore?

Cornell never hosts and it could keep us close some years  if its in buffalo or albany, but it would be work our Ath dept doesnt deem worthy of the effort.

[ugarte]

i wonder why providence wasnt the host and brown was?  dont sometime schools split it?

If they elect to bid together. Maybe Brown doesn't want to subject their Athletic Department to the work of being the host school if the chances of getting the home ice advantage are close to zero.

? But Brown is the host school.

lol

[nshapiro]

If two schools bid together, and both get in, does that mean both of them are guaranteed to be in that region?

What if the co-hosts are in the same group of 4?

[Jim Hyla]

This week's.

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[b][u]This week's brackets (His first choice)[/u][/b]

[b][u]East Regional (Providence):[/u][/b]
14 Boston College vs. [b][u]3 Harvard[/u][/b]
[b][u]11 Union[/u][/b] vs. 8 Providence

[b][u]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/u][/b]
[b][u]13 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 4 Minnesota
12 St. Cloud State vs. 5 Boston University

[b][u]Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):[/u][/b]
15 Air Force vs. 2 Denver
9 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 7 Western Michigan

[b][u]West Regional (Fargo):[/u][/b]
16 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
10 North Dakota vs. 6 Penn State

[b][u]Conference breakdowns[/u][/b]

NCHC — 5
Hockey East — 4
[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 3[/u][/b]
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey – 1

Movement

In: St. Cloud State
Out: Vermont

[b][u]To keep #1 UMD out of Fargo and UND (Second Choice)[/u][/b]

[b][u]East Regional (Providence):[/u][/b]
14 Boston College vs. [b][u]3 Harvard[/u][/b]
12 St. Cloud State vs. 8 Providence

[b][u]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/u][/b]
15 Air Force vs. 2 Denver
[b][u]11 Union[/u][/b] vs. 5 Boston University

[b][u]Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):[/u][/b]
16 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
9 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 6 Penn State

[b][u]West Regional (Fargo):[/u][/b]
[b][u]13 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 4 Minnesota
10 North Dakota vs. 7 Western Michigan

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2017/02/15/where-does-your-team-stand-with-less-than-one-month-left-in-regular-season/#ixzz4YmEgvFGj


Fortunately for us, he does prefer the first choice.

[Trotsky]

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West Regional (Fargo):
13 Cornell vs. 4 Minnesota
10 North Dakota vs. 7 Western Michigan


Shit like that is why it's important not to leave any points on the table from here on out.

[Swampy]

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West Regional (Fargo):
13 Cornell vs. 4 Minnesota
10 North Dakota vs. 7 Western Michigan


Shit like that is why it's important not to leave any points on the table from here on out.

Absolutely. I understand that at least one Harvard alum, Billy Bob Thorton, was living in the Fargo area. so Harvard would be a better choice for Fargo.

[wakester2468]

Adam Wodon's recent article on Pairwise was about the best explanation of the process I've read recently. I wasn't aware that a team under .500 was ineligible for the
tournament by rule. This makes me feel a little better about St Cloud. While weekly projections are fun, Adam is correct that they basically are meaningless until
the last week and conference playoffs.  Another observation which is pointed out is the issues that North Dakota hosting creates.  To not put the top seed there because of a
potential match up with them in a regional final seems to give reason to not allow teams to host on their own ice.  Teams hosting regionals in their area makes sense but at
the schools themselves. Harvard or BU being forced to Fargo to eliminate a Duluth vs ND match up in the 2nd round is clearly wrong. Let's also not forget that North Dakota
plays on an Olympic size sheet. At least playing at Lake Placid the week before might help in that regard. Going to be interesting over the next three weeks to see how the committee
places tems.