Bracketology 2016-17 Style

[adamw]

right now we are in the east because we are ahead of harvard in the PWR.  if we stay one of the top 2 ECAC teams , much better chance of staying home. if we become the top ECAC team its almost a lock.

None of that is necessarily true.

[upprdeck]

I think it is..   you have to go back 10+ years to find a ECAC team that was a top 8 seed that didnt play in the east or NE bracket.  Pretty good odds no ECAC team is a top 4 seed  and that we dont have 3 ECAC teams in the top 8..

I didnt find any instance of the top ECAC team not playing in the east/NE going back that far.

[jkahn]

I think it is..   you have to go back 10+ years to find a ECAC team that was a top 8 seed that didnt play in the east or NE bracket.  Pretty good odds no ECAC team is a top 4 seed  and that we dont have 3 ECAC teams in the top 8..

I didnt find any instance of the top ECAC team not playing in the east/NE going back that far.

But just going back a little further:
2006 #8 Cornell in Green Bay
2005 #5 Cornell in Minneapolis

[scoop85]

I think it is..   you have to go back 10+ years to find a ECAC team that was a top 8 seed that didnt play in the east or NE bracket.  Pretty good odds no ECAC team is a top 4 seed  and that we dont have 3 ECAC teams in the top 8..

I didnt find any instance of the top ECAC team not playing in the east/NE going back that far.

But just going back a little further:
2006 #8 Cornell in Green Bay
2005 #5 Cornell in Minneapolis

But of course because it was us ::cuss::

[upprdeck]

but that is the point.. since then it really has become location and attendance/money driven when making the brackets.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

first, just get in..

second, win enough to get a east cost seed.

Getting an Eastern seed is not contingent upon more winning, really.

It is if we get one of the top 4 seeds this year, because I doubt three eastern schools will be in the top 4.  And Penn State is equidistant from Providence and Cincinnati, so they can go to either.

Sure, but I wasn't even going there. I'd be pleasantly very surprised if that happens.

You and me both, friend.  You and me both.  ::banana::

But I am an engineer, so I can be a bit literal at times.  ::whistle::

[marty]

but that is the point.. since then it really has become location and attendance/money driven when making the brackets.

That is the official NCAA line.  And the committee gave Providence a huge gift in'15 (for love or money).

When we were sent west to Wisconsin and Minnesota it seemed like punishment. Maybe those days are over but each year is different.  Some brackets fill themselves yet that certainly isn't the case every year. I never thought the Friars would stay east. (Brown was the host at that regional.)

AKA there are no absolutes when the seeding is done.

[Jim Hyla]

Here's this week's.

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[b][u]East Regional (Providence):[/u][/b]
14 Boston College vs. 3 Penn State
10 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. [b][u]6 Union[/u][/b]

[b][u]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/u][/b]
[b][u]13 Harvard[/u][/b] vs. 4 Boston University
[b][u]11 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 5 Western Michigan

[b][u]Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):[/u][/b]
16 Canisius vs. 2 Denver
9 Vermont vs. 8 Ohio State

[b][u]West Regional (Fargo):[/u][/b]
15 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
12 North Dakota vs. 7 Minnesota

[b][u]Conference breakdowns[/u][/b]

Hockey East — 4
NCHC — 4
Big Ten — 3
[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 3[/u][/b]
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Movement

In: Canisius
Out: Air Force

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2017/01/25/where-do-teams-stand-with-last-weekend-of-january-on-tap/#ixzz4WoXb7Jpj

I'd be happy. Our regional should certainly be well attended and should be good hockey to watch.

[Beeeej]

I'd be happy. Our regional should certainly be well attended and should be good hockey to watch.

I'd be over-the-moon thrilled. If we pull off the upset over WMU, we've got either Harvard or BU next. Imagine Cornell vs. Harvard for a slot in the Frozen Four? F*cking epic.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I'd be happy. Our regional should certainly be well attended and should be good hockey to watch.

I'd be over-the-moon thrilled. If we pull off the upset over WMU, we've got either Harvard or BU next. Imagine Cornell vs. Harvard for a slot in the Frozen Four? F*cking epic.

Only if we win.  If we lose...f-ing devastating.

[adamw]

but that is the point.. since then it really has become location and attendance/money driven when making the brackets.

Not entirely, and it fluctuates, and only in the last couple years has that been an overriding concern. Not trying to be argumentative, but the bottom line is that winning more doesn't necessarily get you an Eastern regional. It really all depends upon who the other teams are, where your natural slot falls, etc...

[marty]

but that is the point.. since then it really has become location and attendance/money driven when making the brackets.

Not entirely, and it fluctuates, and only in the last couple years has that been an overriding concern. Not trying to be argumentative, but the bottom line is that winning more doesn't necessarily get you an Eastern regional. It really all depends upon who the other teams are, where your natural slot falls, etc...

A scenario that proves Adam's point would be to have 3 of the top 4  seeded teams be from the east. If Penn State, BU and Union all all in the top 4 only 2 of them stay east.

Currently we have BU and Western Michigan at 4 and 5. If BU falls to #5 then one of the top 3 teams would be from the west but traveling east.

[upprdeck]

thats an issue for the bracket at large but this is a conversation about where cornell will go. the top 4 seeds have different bracket integrity rules than the other seeds

[marty]

thats an issue for the bracket at large but this is a conversation about where cornell will go. the top 4 seeds have different bracket integrity rules than the other seeds

Cornell is not a host. If we land 3 or 4 behind two other eastern teams we could be on a plane traveling west! This is all a wonderful dream.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

One other thing is that North Dakota is a host.  If we can stay in the same band as them, it takes away one chance of being shipped west.