ECAC Playoff Possibilities and Race in a Nutshell Thread

[Trotsky]

Impressive 2 weekends for Cornell, with 7 of 8 points.  Here are the points we have gained  on our standings rivals in just 2 weekends:

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21 Drt 3
21 Yal 5
20 Uni 3
19 Clk 3
18 Brn 4
17 Cor -
17 Prn 7
15 Col 5


[Tom Lento]

Whelp, great weekend.  Unfortunately, our outside chance at a first-round bye has slipped away with Yale's victory, given that wins are the first tiebreak past head-to-head now.

I'm hoping Cornell (4 points) and Princeton (4 points) win out, Dartmouth (0 points) loses to QC, Union ties SLU, Clarkson (2 points) beats Union (1 point) and loses to RPI, and Colgate beats Yale (0 points). I believe that puts everyone from 4th through 9th at 21 points.

I'll leave it to someone else to figure out the tiebreakers if that happens. It's entirely possible that will leave Cornell in 9th, in which case I guess I'd like to see Princeton lose/draw against Harvard, which leaves them with at most 20 points.

In the end I think the final standings will be kind of boring, and Cornell's home ice hopes will hinge on beating Brown, not losing to Yale, and the outcome of Princeton/Dartmouth on Friday. Losing to Brown pretty much puts Cornell in the 9-11 range.

[Trotsky]

We catch a scheduling break which hopefully will matter.  The Saturday Brown game will be over before Cornell's begins.

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Friday, March 1:
  Colgate              at [color=#FF0000]Yale[/color]                 EC            7:00 pm ET
  Clarkson             at [color=#FF0000]RPI[/color]                  EC            7:00 pm ET
  [color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color]              at Brown                EC            7:00 pm ET
  Princeton            at [color=#FF0000]Dartmouth[/color]            EC            7:00 pm ET
  Quinnipiac           at Harvard              EC            7:00 pm ET
  [color=#FF0000]St. Lawrence[/color]         at Union                EC            7:00 pm ET

Saturday, March 2:
  [color=#FF0000]Colgate[/color]              at Brown                EC            4:00 pm ET
  Clarkson             at Union                EC            7:00 pm ET
  [color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color]              at Yale                 EC            7:00 pm ET
  Princeton            at [color=#FF0000]Harvard[/color]              EC            7:00 pm ET
  [color=#FF0000]Quinnipiac[/color]           at Dartmouth            EC            7:00 pm ET
  St. Lawrence         at RPI                  EC            7:00 pm ET

[Give My Regards]

Whelp, great weekend.  Unfortunately, our outside chance at a first-round bye has slipped away with Yale's victory, given that wins are the first tiebreak past head-to-head now.

You're not going to believe this, but it looks like the fat lady is still only humming (loudly).  While a Cornell-Yale tie goes Yale's way, it is possible for those two to finish in a four-way tie for fourth place along with Dartmouth and either Union or Clarkson... and in that completely ridiculous scenario, head-to-head results would give the #4 seed to the Big Red.

As for Tom's six-way tie, that gets gross, but from 4 to 9, the seeds would go Clarkson, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Dartmouth, Union.

[Swampy]

If we were to win out the regular season and make it to the ECAC finals and lose to QU, is there any real chance we'd get a bid to the NCAA's?

[Scersk '97]

Whelp, great weekend.  Unfortunately, our outside chance at a first-round bye has nearly slipped away with Yale's victory, given that wins are the first tiebreak past head-to-head now.

You're not going to believe this, but it looks like the fat lady is still only humming (loudly).  While a Cornell-Yale tie goes Yale's way, it is possible for those two to finish in a four-way tie for fourth place along with Dartmouth and either Union or Clarkson... and in that completely ridiculous scenario, head-to-head results would give the #4 seed to the Big Red.

As for Tom's six-way tie, that gets gross, but from 4 to 9, the seeds would go Clarkson, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Dartmouth, Union.

Oh, I believe it and am happy to hear it.  Should've thought to investigate the further ties.  Let's edit that quote.

(Indeed, time to go to sleep.  I wasn't even thinking about head-to-heads...  at all.  Where's my script!  Too dang complicated for old brain.)

[Dafatone]

If we were to win out the regular season and make it to the ECAC finals and lose to QU, is there any real chance we'd get a bid to the NCAA's?

I would have to imagine not, but what if we beat QU earlier on and then lost to someone else?  That might give us more of a boost.

[Chris '03]

While it's probably impossible, the best scenario would be taking two from Q. Might also help if the series went three games.

[jkahn]

If we were to win out the regular season and make it to the ECAC finals and lose to QU, is there any real chance we'd get a bid to the NCAA's?

I think at 7-1 the rest of the way we'd be borderline.  It would depend on a lot of results outside our control. not only the records of all those teams above us, but things such as whether Colorado College and Colgate remained TUCs.  Also, with things being so wide open this year, a team not in the top 16 may very well win its tournament, which would lessen the chances if we don't win the ECACs.

[andyw2100]

If we were to win out the regular season and make it to the ECAC finals and lose to QU, is there any real chance we'd get a bid to the NCAA's?

I think at 7-1 the rest of the way we'd be borderline.  It would depend on a lot of results outside our control. not only the records of all those teams above us, but things such as whether Colorado College and Colgate remained TUCs.  Also, with things being so wide open this year, a team not in the top 16 may very well win its tournament, which would lessen the chances if we don't win the ECACs.

Nine days ago I doubt anyone here thought that today we'd be discussing the possibility of making the NCAA tournament without winning the ECAC Championship and our slim chances at still getting a first round bye. What a difference a couple of weekends makes!

[Trotsky]

Never give up.  Never surrender.

[upprdeck]

the Prin-harv games not being wins could make the difference.. those 3 pts would have given us a shot a 2nd.

[Trotsky]

the Prin-harv games not being wins could make the difference.. those 3 pts would have given us a shot a 2nd.

That way lies madness.  There are also games where we stole points.

[billhoward]

the Prin-harv games not being wins could make the difference.. those 3 pts would have given us a shot a 2nd.

Good chance this week to think about 3-4 games we'd like to have back. The come-from-ahead loss to Maine in the Florida tournament looms large. Also getting tied by Dartmouth 1-1 with a minute to play. The OT loss to Yale. And coming back from Denver with zero points.

[css228]

the Prin-harv games not being wins could make the difference.. those 3 pts would have given us a shot a 2nd.

Good chance this week to think about 3-4 games we'd like to have back. The come-from-ahead loss to Maine in the Florida tournament looms large. Also getting tied by Dartmouth 1-1 with a minute to play. The OT loss to Yale. And coming back from Denver with zero points.

If we're gonna play that game, can't we just have back the spring semester. No matter what this late run accomplishes, it doesn't mask that the team didn't show up for a full month and a half.