Congradulations on the Minnesota Referees win !!!

[tvset]

This was the most biased job of calling a game I've seen all season ..............

[DeltaOne81]

The reffing all tournament has been off. Its bizarre and I agree it sucked, but it wasn't biased. Don't be a poor loser.

[cth95]

     The refs didn't control the puck in our end for large amounts of 5-on-5 time and prevent us from setting up good scoring opportunities the other way.  Minnesota is a very good team and definitely knew how to spread the wider ice to their advantage.

[billhoward]

We could have won if the referees blew the puck dead in the corner before O'Byrne had a chance to "lose the game" for us. But the refs didn't make Topher shoot high over a seemongly open net and they weren't the ones who made the goalpost stop that helped us out in regulation.

If I was Minnesota, I'd be pretty happy about making the final four - for about one day - and then I'd start wondering about the quality of my power play and if Tyler Hirsch is going to make it back and why we can only generate 1.00 goals per game on offense so far in regulation in NCAA play on home ice and if there's a way to sneak in Phil Kessel in the *spring* of 2005.

[Trotsky]

Sorry, this thread is all a load of crap.  Cornell was whistled more because they committed more infractions.  A *lot* more.  Way more than were called.

They had to, and they meant to.  The name of the game was:

1) Try to stay ahead of the play.
2) When you fall behind, take the penalty.
3) Do the time, and try to survive.

It worked.  The refs did their job in calling the penalties, and Cornell did their job in stopping Minny dead, OUTSCORING them on their advantage.

[redGrinch]

Not biased, but getting CCHA refs for the game was probably not good for us either.  CCHA called the most penalties of the 4 conferences (maybe even the 6).  I honestly can only think of 1, maybe 2 things I though could've been called against Minnesota.  But a couple of the Cornell calls were questionable.  Cornell plays a more physical game, and could've been hurt by the ref draw.

I'm not going to blame the refs though for not blowing the play dead - i've never particularly liked the call - i.e. I always think it should be played against the walls, as in the NHL, unless you've really got two opposing skates pinned on it and neither guy's going to move.  O'Byrne was trying to freeze it himself and the refs didn't let him get away with it.

[CUlater 89]

[Q]tvset Wrote:

 This was the most biased job of calling a game I've seen all season ..............
[/q]

The most biased thing I saw was the TV coverage -- the announcers with their familiarity with the Minnesota players, and the cameras, with their numerous shots of the sieve's parents, Minnesota fans and almost nonexistant coverage of the Cornell contingent.

[DeltaOne81]

CUlater, agreed. I was just bitching about that to my dad. The announcers pissed me off. I guess all the NHL announcers wanted nothing to do with the sham that is an NCAA tournament on someone's home ice

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 CUlater, agreed. I was just bitching about that to my dad. The announcers pissed me off. I guess all the NHL announcers wanted nothing to do with the sham that is an NCAA tournament on someone's home ice [/q]

I wish they'd had Frank and Doug do the game; at least they would only have mispronounced our players' names and not both teams'.  Tackleson indeed.

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]redGrinch Wrote:

 Not biased, but getting CCHA refs for the game was probably not good for us either.  CCHA called the most penalties of the 4 conferences (maybe even the 6).  I honestly can only think of 1, maybe 2 things I though could've been called against Minnesota.  But a couple of the Cornell calls were questionable.  Cornell plays a more physical game, and could've been hurt by the ref draw.[/q]

I dunno about that. I was just commenting before the first penalty that the lack of calls hurt us because our special teams are so good.  And if we were going to get a chance in the early going, it was most likely to come on the PP.  (It reminded me of my Polish colleague's observation that in the BC game from the Everblades, the teams seemed to be waiting for the next powerplay rather than trying to score 5x5.)

[Q]I'm not going to blame the refs though for not blowing the play dead - i've never particularly liked the call - i.e. I always think it should be played against the walls, as in the NHL, unless you've really got two opposing skates pinned on it and neither guy's going to move.  O'Byrne was trying to freeze it himself and the refs didn't let him get away with it.[/q]

That's also a CCHA trait.  They're very reluctant to blow the whistle with the puck along the boards.  Sometimes you can hear Shegos yelling at players to move the puck.

[oceanst41]

actually Minny is scoring .50 goals per game in regulation, as they went to OT vs. Maine scoreless - but still your point remains

[calgARI '07]

I was at the game and thought the officiating was fine.  I actually thought Cornell took more bad penalties today than usual, but it isn't as if Minnesota scored on any powerplays so it isn't really a big deal.  They were beaten by the team they played.  Could have gone either way.

[ugarte]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 I was at the game and thought the officiating was fine.  I actually thought Cornell took more bad penalties today than usual, but it isn't as if Minnesota scored on any powerplays so it isn't really a big deal.  They were beaten by the team they played.  Could have gone either way.[/q]Well, we were skating a man down for a lot of the game, so it was something of a big deal (Carefoot's goal notwithstanding). It wasn't the officials' fault, though. Cornell committed a lot of penalties to keep the buzzing Minnesota skaters in check.

By the way, I thought the linesmen were horrible. A lot of very questionable offsides calls.

[calgARI '07]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 I was at the game and thought the officiating was fine.  I actually thought Cornell took more bad penalties today than usual, but it isn't as if Minnesota scored on any powerplays so it isn't really a big deal.  They were beaten by the team they played.  Could have gone either way.[/Q]
Well, we were skating a man down for a lot of the game, so it was something of a big deal (Carefoot's goal notwithstanding). It wasn't the officials' fault, though. Cornell committed a lot of penalties to keep the buzzing Minnesota skaters in check.

By the way, I thought the linesmen were horrible. A lot of very questionable offsides calls.[/q]

Not to mention the two icings in the second period (against Cornell) that were mysteriously waved off.

[RichS]

[Q]
That's also a CCHA trait.  They're very reluctant to blow the whistle with the puck along the boards.  Sometimes you can hear Shegos yelling at players to move the puck.[/q]


That happens at all levels of hockey.  Officials generally want to keep the play moving.  For one thing, it cuts down on the play disintegrating into a "clutch and grab" game.

I notice that cornell took several more penalties than did Minny.  Were the Gophers faster, or as expressed in a previous thread re:other ECAC teams, does this stat indicate that cornell is a bunch of "goons"?

I think I know the answer but, just wondering.  
:-D