Congradulations on the Minnesota Referees win !!!

[Trotsky]

I think I know the answer, too.  Cornell was the least penalized team in the ECAC this season.

[Josh '99]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:
Not to mention the two icings in the second period (against Cornell) that were mysteriously waved off.[/q]If you're talking about the ones I think you are, they were waved because Minnesota skaters could've gotten to the puck had they made an effort and deliberately skated away from it.  At least one of them that was definitely the case.

[DeltaOne81]

That may be the case, but usually they whistle those anyway. How many times does the opposing player *not* slow up a bit or change direction a little to make it look harder to get to. That's almost law. Unless it was egregious, and nothing I saw on TV made it seem so, then the linesmen were calling it different than I've seen for years.

[Oat]

Don't you have the rights to skate away and take the icing call?  I don't think you're required to bust your ass and sprint to the puck and then risk getting checked or stolen by the opposing team.

[DeltaOne81]

Well, I'm pretty damn sure the rule is if the player "could" have gotten to it. So sure, you can skate away, but if you do so when you clearly could and should have touched it, then the icing is nullified anyway.

But the rule is usually applied very liberally, it has to be damn obvious that they could have reached it. I guess the linesmen saw the refs reinterpreted rules all tournament long (less so in our games - BC/Mercyhurst was outrageous) and decided to have a crack at it themselves

[duffs4]

The refs weren't bad in this game, they have just never seen the Gregg Lugainis(sp) show.  The Gophers were really good at taking dives.  The penalty on Topher, paleeessee, the guys arms went up like he got dragged down by Scott Stevens.   The difference was: their guys would put a stick on our guys and ride them all over the ice and our guys would try to fight through it, when we did the same they would go down.  Learn to Skate!  

Enough venting, THANKS GUYS FOR A GREAT SEASON!!

McKee for HOBEY!

[KeithK]

I don't think the refereeing was horrible, but it did seem like the game was called a little closer than I would have preferred.  I think the Minnesota's speed advantage may have "sold" the ref on some of the calls though.  When you're chasing the offensiver team like we were I imagine the ref is subconciously expecting the defense to commit infractions and as a result is more likely to call borderline stuff.

The Gophers certainly don't have Schafer as a coach.  They were flopping to the ice at the least provocation.  I guess that doesn't impact their style of play as much as it would Cornell's - no way you can cycle the puck constantly in the corners the way we try to if you're going to flop to the ice constantly.

During the first two periods the ref seemed reluctant to blow the whistle when the puck was tied up in the corner.  It seemed to me that the whistle came out a lot quicker in the third period.  I'd like to say that the final play would've been whistled dead based on third period standards, but that's not really fair.  Deciding when to call a faceoff is a subjective call - it's not like the puck has a sensor that triggers a timer in the refs head when it stops moving.

[billhoward]

Sometimes refererees over-penalize big guys and Topher, ah, he plays big for his size maybe?

[ugarte]

[Q]RichS Wrote:I notice that cornell took several more penalties than did Minny.  Were the Gophers faster, or as expressed in a previous thread re:other ECAC teams, does this stat indicate that cornell is a bunch of "goons"?

I think I know the answer but, just wondering.  
 [/q]Broadly speaking, we were a little goony the first few periods. But it wasn't "goony" so much as defensive. We weren't illegally rough along the boards or making cover-your-eyes open-ice hits; we "non-violently" dragged people down or hooked them when they got a step on us. Nothing dirty, though.

[ugarte]

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:
Not to mention the two icings in the second period (against Cornell) that were mysteriously waved off.[/Q]
If you're talking about the ones I think you are, they were waved because Minnesota skaters could've gotten to the puck had they made an effort and deliberately skated away from it.  At least one of them that was definitely the case.[/q]And on at least one, I think it glanced off of a Gopher stick before even crossing the center line.

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

Broadly speaking, we were a little goony the first few periods. But it wasn't "goony" so much as defensive. We weren't illegally rough along the boards or making cover-your-eyes open-ice hits; we "non-violently" dragged people down or hooked them when they got a step on us. Nothing dirty, though.[/q]

One might even say we clutched and grabbed.
 ::help::

[duffs4]

Not as much as the Gophers did.  They were all over our guys as much if not more.  Case in point; we had a three on one and their guy put Gleed in a head-lock at our end of the ice, the play was whistled dead and matching minors are handed out. ::twitch::

[atb9]

[Q]duffs4 Wrote:
we had a three on one and their guy put Gleed in a head-lock at our end of the ice, the play was whistled dead and matching minors are handed out.  [/q]

I think this is a sequence that doesn't get enough discussion.  I didn't see it because the camera panned away when the puck was brought forward.  At the time, I was so upset because I thought they were calling offsides and it looked like a top notch scoring chance.  The camera then went back to show Gleed with his helmet up on the back of his head.  :-(

[cornelldavy]

[Q]duffs4 Wrote:

 Not as much as the Gophers did.  They were all over our guys as much if not more.  Case in point; we had a three on one and their guy put Gleed in a head-lock at our end of the ice, the play was whistled dead and matching minors are handed out.  [/q]

OK, I was at the game, and if I'm thinking of the same play you are, the play happened right in front of the Cornell section. I'm pretty sure Gleed started that little scrap behind the play. I remember thinking Gleed was being an idiot for holding their guy behind the play and I was glad their guy hit Gleed back to take the matching minor. Gleed started that one. Remember, Gleed's penalty was holding, the Minnesota penalty was for roughing.

[billhoward]

[Q]atb9 Wrote: I didn't see it because the camera panned away when the puck was brought forward.  At the time, I was so upset because I thought they were calling offsides and it looked like a top notch scoring chance.  The camera then went back to show Gleed with his helmet up on the back of his head.[/q]The camera panned away because it hadn't showed the Minnesota goalie's parents in the last 90 seconds. It must be a contractual requirement for video equipment in Mariucci Arena. That and that the only Minnesota fans you can show must have blond or formerly blond hair.