Hockey at Fenway?

[Rosey]

[quote Trotsky][quote krose]it's very blue state-ish to spend other peoples' money, given how much easier it is than spending one's own.[/quote]
Considering that the blue states are a net positive and the red states are a net negative when considering federal revenue vs federal expenditure, and thus that the blue states are subsidizing the red states, you don't want to make those kinds of asinine statements.[/quote]
Did I say anything about where the money was coming from?  There's no honor among thieves, implying that the blue states aren't above trying to extract money from other blue states.

Please observe the non-political nature of the board and keep the comments to hockey, where you might know something.

Sure, as long as it's mutual.  I'll be on the lookout.

Cheers,
Kyle

[DeltaOne81]

I hate to say it, but I agree with Facetimer

Boston driving will never be great, heck, it'll never be good... you're dealing with a decent sized city, tightly packed, with a limited public transportation system and 50 story buildings with one-way cowpaths in between them. Whaddaya want?

The Big Dig is a massive improvement over what was (albeit, granted, at a massive cost) - both roadwise and even more so aesthetically.


Boston's main problem is lack of public transportation (well, that and the aforemenioned one way cowpaths). To make it convenient it would need something much more like the coverage of the NY subway. The T is very spread out and there are plenty of places in town where just aren't anywhere near a station. Moreso, you shouldn't have to go downtown to get from Harvard Square to the BU area. And it shouldn't take an hour. There should be a Green 'A' line that goes across the BU bridge to Harvard Square.

But there's simply no where to put any of it, so it is what it is.


And yes, blue laws suck. But you're gonna get that just about anywhere in New England, so deal

[Trotsky]

The point is that nothing ruins a public forum faster than interjections of politics or religion.  This is in fact the only forum I've seen where the posters just don't go there, and I'd hate to see it end.

So yes, mutual, of course.  There are a million other places for political screeds.

[nyc94]

[quote Trotsky][quote krose]it's very blue state-ish to spend other peoples' money, given how much easier it is than spending one's own.[/quote]
Considering that the blue states are a net positive and the red states are a net negative when considering federal revenue vs federal expenditure, and thus that the blue states are subsidizing the red states, you don't want to make those kinds of asinine statements.

Please observe the non-political nature of the board and keep the comments to hockey, where you might know something.[/quote]

I don't see what your comment has to do with what I asked.  I simply suggested that those in the blue states would be less inclined to spend massive amounts on a highway project since it is generally accepted that more roads lead to more driving.  More driving leads to more dependence on oil and leads to more pollution.  If Massachusetts had spent $17 billion on a mass transit project I wouldn't have brought it up.

[Rich S]

pretty funny.  People like to dump on NYC but it has far fewer logistical issues than Boston.

I always enjoy visiting Boston but it's not reasonably inexpensive to visit as mentioned earlier.  On the contrary it's always near the top of the list of expensive major cities for business travel along with DC and New York.

[gtsully]

Considering all of the variables involved (not the least of which being that Fenway was not designed for hockey), I don't know why they don't just play BC-BU there to start instead of trying to organize the doubleheader involving teams from out west.  Oh wait, I know why - because the current Red Sox ownership loves to make headlines and slap their brand name all over the news.  Good times.

Anyway, despite the personal attacks on my hometown and me and my admittedly annoying city-mates on this thread, I still think it's a terrific idea, and I plan on doing whatever it takes to get tickets.

And I can't imagine Harvard or Northeastern being involved.  They just don't draw enough, and besides, Harvard sucks.

[KeithK]

[quote nyc94]I don't see what your comment has to do with what I asked.  I simply suggested that those in the blue states would be less inclined to spend massive amounts on a highway project since it is generally accepted that more roads lead to more driving.  More driving leads to more dependence on oil and leads to more pollution.  If Massachusetts had spent $17 billion on a mass transit project I wouldn't have brought it up.[/quote]Continuing off-topic, reduced congestion might reduce overall pollution by making the amount of gas burned go further.  Or it might encourage additional driving.  It's hard to say.  Keep in mind that the project was initiated something like 20 years ago.

There's no doubt in my mind that the Big Dig improves Boston. The question is simply whether it was worth the cost, especially coming out of federal coffers.  But the project really shouldn't be viewed from a left/right perspective.  It's simply a matter of a powerful politician (Tip O'Neill, long time Speaker of the House) getting funding for projects in his district.

[Liz '05]

[quote krose]

-Liquor stores are open at least until 11:00 and are open on Sundays. The liquor laws in Massachusetts allow for stores called "package stores," which are usually much more classy than running to your local gas station in other jursidictions which usually carry only beer and wine. *** Why shouldn't I be able to buy beer 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?  Or liquor or wine, for that matter?  Blue laws suck.
[/quote]

Kyle,
Massachusetts blue laws are awesome compared to Connecticut's.  My brother and I regularly look at the clock that reads 7:45 pm, swear, and speed to the package store so we can grab enough beer for the group of undetermined size that'll be partying that night.  Everywhere I've lived since, I think it's amazing that I can buy alcohol (closer to) whenever I want.

[Josh '99]

[quote DeltaOne81]And yes, blue laws suck. But you're gonna get that just about anywhere in New England, so deal [/quote]Well, yeah, because New England sucks.  :-P

[Rosey]

[quote Liz '05]Massachusetts blue laws are awesome compared to Connecticut's.[/quote]
Doesn't make it any less dumb.

IMO, the state has no business telling me when or where I can buy or sell alcohol.  I admit the Constitution clearly disagrees, but in response to that, see my first statement.

Cheers,
Kyle

[Trotsky]

LOL, now we have two threads talking about the Constitution.  Carry on...  ::screwy::

[Rosey]

[quote Trotsky]LOL, now we have two threads talking about the Constitution.  Carry on...  ::screwy::[/quote]
I apologize.  This crap follows me wherever I go.  I shall make an effort not to mention the Constitution for at least a few days, starting... now.

Kyle

[Beeeej]

All we need is for one more fan to get thrown out for exercising his "right of free speech," and we'll have a third.

Beeeej

[DeltaOne81]

[quote krose][quote Liz '05]Massachusetts blue laws are awesome compared to Connecticut's.[/quote]
Doesn't make it any less dumb.

IMO, the state has no business telling me when or where I can buy or sell alcohol.  I admit the Constitution clearly disagrees, but in response to that, see my first statement. [/quote]


Honestly, if you can't plan a day in advance how much you need to drink, you probably shouldn't be drinking

Like Liz, I grew up in Ct. Just the idea of being able to buy liquor on a Sunday (though I haven't bought alcohol in a while anyway) is a vast improvement to me.

[Trotsky]

[quote krose][quote Trotsky]LOL, now we have two threads talking about the Constitution.  Carry on...  ::screwy::[/quote]
I apologize.  This crap follows me wherever I go.  I shall make an effort not to mention the Constitution for at least a few days, starting... now.

Kyle[/quote]
Kyle, I was actually kidding. I genuinely thought it was funny. ;-)