Recruits 2026 and Beyond

Started by BearLover, June 05, 2025, 01:34:48 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: marty on November 04, 2025, 01:08:18 PMWhat I haven't seen the team benefit from is endless speculation.  Yet it seems more endless than ever.

Happily it is irrelevant.  No member of the team or staff knows or cares what any fan thinks or says, as is proper.

I prefer the bulls at the tauromachy not consult me for tactics.  The fuck do I know?

Trotsky

#91
Quote from: abmarks on November 03, 2025, 06:35:28 AM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on November 02, 2025, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 09:55:25 PMWell that really sullied a good weekend. WTF

Only if you let it. I'm confident we'll continue to recruit very well despite it all.
The recruiting is looking pretty sketchy at the moment. The Pelletier thing is especially annoying because it seems like an unforced error.

What's especially annoying is your tendency to assume things without having any evidence whatsoever as to why they happened, and then blame it on the coaching staff 90 percent of the time.

Either he is 12 and trolling for attention or he was raised by Stephen A. and those imbeciles and doesn't know any better.

Either way, just ignore him.  If you have ever suffered through a game thread on social media you realize 75% of any fan base are howler monkeys.  There is no point engaging.


BearLover

Quote from: Trotsky on November 04, 2025, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: abmarks on November 03, 2025, 06:35:28 AM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on November 02, 2025, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 09:55:25 PMWell that really sullied a good weekend. WTF

Only if you let it. I'm confident we'll continue to recruit very well despite it all.
The recruiting is looking pretty sketchy at the moment. The Pelletier thing is especially annoying because it seems like an unforced error.

What's especially annoying is your tendency to assume things without having any evidence whatsoever as to why they happened, and then blame it on the coaching staff 90 percent of the time.

Either he is 12 and trolling for attention or he was raised by Stephen A. and those imbeciles and doesn't know any better.

Either way, just ignore him.  If you have ever suffered through a game thread on social media you realize 75% of any fan base are howler monkeys.  There is no point engaging.


Yawn. In this case it seems likely that the coaching staff actually messed up. You can try to spin it however you like or dismiss it as speculation (of course it's speculation! I don't work for the hockey team and I'm posting on a fan forum!), but the fact remains he could have been brought in for this season and wasn't, and had he been brought in he'd be playing for Cornell right now instead of committing to BC. Sorry if it offends the people on here to posit these things. chimpfood said the same thing and then a bunch of people who don't closely follow recruiting reassembled the Coaching Staff Defense Squad.

ugarte

Quote from: BearLover on November 04, 2025, 04:10:03 PMYawn. In this case it seems likely that the coaching staff actually messed up. You can try to spin it however you like or dismiss it as speculation (of course it's speculation! I don't work for the hockey team and I'm posting on a fan forum!), but the fact remains he could have been brought in for this season and wasn't, and had he been brought in he'd be playing for Cornell right now instead of committing to BC. Sorry if it offends the people on here to posit these things. chimpfood said the same thing and then a bunch of people who don't closely follow recruiting reassembled the Coaching Staff Defense Squad.
In this case i'm with BL. "We don't know his reasons" is something for church. the rest of us base our opinions on what we can see since i'm not being paid to represent anyone here. it's entirely possible that he declined to be brought in a year early to bet on himself or other reasons but who knows. if cornell brought anyone in early, but didn't bring in pelletiier, the most reasonable speculation is that it was Cornell's call.

ON THE OTHER HAND, there's a limit to the handwringing and back and forth that you probably need to engage in once you've staked your posiition because at a certain point you're just playing ping pong and messing with everyone's new message notifications.

Trotsky

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Quote from: ugarte on November 04, 2025, 04:27:26 PMIn this case i'm with BL. "We don't know his reasons" is something for church. the rest of us base our opinions on what we can see

OK, but what do we see?  Only a single fact.  We know nothing behind it.  So if the coaching staff is at fault for losing guys then it is equally to their credit when we steal guys.  Thus, they are doing fine.

Now, I see no universe in which it is reasonable to assume the coaching staff is responsible for any of these changes of player heart, but even if we posit that then our staff is still doing fine.

BearLover

Quote from: Trotsky on November 04, 2025, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 04, 2025, 04:27:26 PMIn this case i'm with BL. "We don't know his reasons" is something for church. the rest of us base our opinions on what we can see

OK, but what do we see?  Only a single fact.  We know nothing behind it.  So if the coaching staff is at fault for losing guys then it is equally to their credit when we steal guys.  Thus, they are doing fine.

Now, I see no universe in which it is reasonable to assume the coaching staff is responsible for any of these changes of player heart, but even if we posit that then our staff is still doing fine.
"Coaching staff makes one mistake" does not equate to "coaching staff sucks."

There is ALWAYS the risk of a change of player heart when you don't bring guys to campus. Ergo, you bring guys to campus when they're ready to contribute to your team, else you might lose them to a change of heart, change in family economics, whatever.  We had an opportunity to bring this guy to campus, and we didn't. One can reasonably blame the coaching staff for misevaluating Pelletier's readiness and not bringing him to campus. That's very different from blaming the coaching staff for the player experiencing a change of heart.

BearLover

We now have more recruits playing for St. Andrews College than the entire USHL.

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky on November 04, 2025, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 04, 2025, 04:27:26 PMIn this case i'm with BL. "We don't know his reasons" is something for church. the rest of us base our opinions on what we can see

OK, but what do we see?  Only a single fact.  We know nothing behind it.  So if the coaching staff is at fault for losing guys then it is equally to their credit when we steal guys.  Thus, they are doing fine.
i have no meta opinion on their net recruiting. the kid from northeastern looked good though.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: BearLover on November 04, 2025, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 04, 2025, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 04, 2025, 04:27:26 PMIn this case i'm with BL. "We don't know his reasons" is something for church. the rest of us base our opinions on what we can see

OK, but what do we see?  Only a single fact.  We know nothing behind it.  So if the coaching staff is at fault for losing guys then it is equally to their credit when we steal guys.  Thus, they are doing fine.

Now, I see no universe in which it is reasonable to assume the coaching staff is responsible for any of these changes of player heart, but even if we posit that then our staff is still doing fine.
"Coaching staff makes one mistake" does not equate to "coaching staff sucks."

There is ALWAYS the risk of a change of player heart when you don't bring guys to campus. Ergo, you bring guys to campus when they're ready to contribute to your team, else you might lose them to a change of heart, change in family economics, whatever. We had an opportunity to bring this guy to campus, and we didn't. One can reasonably blame the coaching staff for misevaluating Pelletier's readiness and not bringing him to campus. That's very different from blaming the coaching staff for the player experiencing a change of heart.

I haven't followed his recruiting closely, but you keep saying that we didn't bring him in. Do you know that for a fact? Could there have been some academic issues? Do we know that he wanted to come this year? As was said by someone, did he think it might have been good to wait a year and see what other prospects might open up? Might he have thought waiting might open more monetary opportunities?

I have multiple questions that I don't have answers to, so I don't make declarative statements. Maybe these have been answered and I missed them, but maybe we don't know who made the decision not to come, CU or the player.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

The Rancor

Quote from: Jim Hyla on Today at 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: BearLover on November 04, 2025, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 04, 2025, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 04, 2025, 04:27:26 PMIn this case i'm with BL. "We don't know his reasons" is something for church. the rest of us base our opinions on what we can see

OK, but what do we see?  Only a single fact.  We know nothing behind it.  So if the coaching staff is at fault for losing guys then it is equally to their credit when we steal guys.  Thus, they are doing fine.

Now, I see no universe in which it is reasonable to assume the coaching staff is responsible for any of these changes of player heart, but even if we posit that then our staff is still doing fine.
"Coaching staff makes one mistake" does not equate to "coaching staff sucks."

There is ALWAYS the risk of a change of player heart when you don't bring guys to campus. Ergo, you bring guys to campus when they're ready to contribute to your team, else you might lose them to a change of heart, change in family economics, whatever. We had an opportunity to bring this guy to campus, and we didn't. One can reasonably blame the coaching staff for misevaluating Pelletier's readiness and not bringing him to campus. That's very different from blaming the coaching staff for the player experiencing a change of heart.

I haven't followed his recruiting closely, but you keep saying that we didn't bring him in. Do you know that for a fact? Could there have been some academic issues? Do we know that he wanted to come this year? As was said by someone, did he think it might have been good to wait a year and see what other prospects might open up? Might he have thought waiting might open more monetary opportunities?

I have multiple questions that I don't have answers to, so I don't make declarative statements. Maybe these have been answered and I missed them, but maybe we don't know who made the decision not to come, CU or the player.

Seems like he's taking his talents to the best available hockey school. CHN

Honestly who knows why, but a scholarship or some NIL to offset costs could be a big part of it. We'll never know.