Recruits 2026 and Beyond

Started by BearLover, June 05, 2025, 01:34:48 PM

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BearLover

Quote from: scoop85 on November 02, 2025, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 09:55:25 PMWell that really sullied a good weekend. WTF

Only if you let it. I'm confident we'll continue to recruit very well despite it all.
The recruiting is looking pretty sketchy at the moment. The Pelletier thing is especially annoying because it seems like an unforced error.

abmarks

Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on November 02, 2025, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 09:55:25 PMWell that really sullied a good weekend. WTF

Only if you let it. I'm confident we'll continue to recruit very well despite it all.
The recruiting is looking pretty sketchy at the moment. The Pelletier thing is especially annoying because it seems like an unforced error.

What's especially annoying is your tendency to assume things without having any evidence whatsoever as to why they happened, and then blame it on the coaching staff 90 percent of the time.

You and several others are assuming that the coaches actively decided to bring someone else in, and that Pelletier had to wait as a result.  While that's possible, it's just as possible that Pelletier had some reason to want to wait another year, or that both sides thought it made sense.

Or maybe Pelletier was already starting to waver a bit in his own mind, and as they kept in touch over the summer and doing whatever they do to decide who is actually coming in when, the coaching staff could sense that and deferred for another year to make sure the kid was back to rock solid.

Interestingly, whenever a guy leaves early, whether it's Robertson after 2 years or others after 3, you always blame the player and are like good riddance, traitor.

When there's some change with a recruit, you always blame the coaches.

When there is a down year on the lower play, you blame the coaches.

Actually, you almost never blame the players, it's always the coaches.   It's never possible that there really was a rash of injuries in a couple recent years, and then other guys playing hurt on top of that.   Or not believing that half the team has a GI big on a given day.    It's always the coach's fault to you.

#doomandgloomlover

BearLover

I couched my post with qualifiers like "it appears" and "I could be missing something but..." Nobody has all the information, obviously. But those of us who follow recruiting were surprised when he wasn't brought in for this season, given his age and good year in USHL. Meanwhile, younger players, including some who didn't produce as much in juniors, were brought in. Flash forward 5 or 6 months. The entirety of that time Pelletier has stayed committed to Cornell. Only when he starts blowing up and leading the USHL in goals does he decommit. So, there are many explanations and certainly several contributing factors, but weighing all of them it seems likely the coaching staff misevaluated how good he would be and missed a chance to bring him to Ithaca.

Your post is nonsensical anyway because this is probably the first time I've ever blamed the coaching staff for something like this happening.

BearLover

Quote from: abmarks on November 03, 2025, 06:35:28 AM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on November 02, 2025, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 02, 2025, 09:55:25 PMWell that really sullied a good weekend. WTF

Only if you let it. I'm confident we'll continue to recruit very well despite it all.
The recruiting is looking pretty sketchy at the moment. The Pelletier thing is especially annoying because it seems like an unforced error.

When there's some change with a recruit, you always blame the coaches.



Completely making things up eh?

BearLover

Pelletier just committed to BC.

arugula

Not following this as closely as you all, but could this be a matter of he was recruited by Schaf and Schaf  retired so he no longer wanted to come.

BearLover

Quote from: arugula on November 03, 2025, 06:49:40 PMNot following this as closely as you all, but could this be a matter of he was recruited by Schaf and Schaf  retired so he no longer wanted to come.
Well Schafer announced his retirement 1.5 years ago and Pelletier listed himself as committed to Cornell until recently...

scoop85

Perhaps some NIL money plus the "traditional" full ride athletic scholarship to a traditional blue blood program was enough of an enticement.

marty

Quote from: scoop85 on November 03, 2025, 09:40:10 PMPerhaps some NIL money plus the "traditional" full ride athletic scholarship to a traditional blue blood program was enough of an enticement.

Will he commit to Penn State or some other program flush with cash?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

ugarte

Quote from: marty on November 03, 2025, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on November 03, 2025, 09:40:10 PMPerhaps some NIL money plus the "traditional" full ride athletic scholarship to a traditional blue blood program was enough of an enticement.

Will he commit to Penn State or some other program flush with cash?
scroll up... this was referring to BC

marty

Quote from: ugarte on November 03, 2025, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: marty on November 03, 2025, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on November 03, 2025, 09:40:10 PMPerhaps some NIL money plus the "traditional" full ride athletic scholarship to a traditional blue blood program was enough of an enticement.

Will he commit to Penn State or some other program flush with cash?
scroll up... this was referring to BC

How could I possibly have skimmed over the BL BC comment?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

stereax

Quote from: scoop85 on November 03, 2025, 09:40:10 PMPerhaps some NIL money plus the "traditional" full ride athletic scholarship to a traditional blue blood program was enough of an enticement.
Yep. That's probably it. To which I say: ah, shucks. That's just how the cookie is going to crumble for some. Cornell is great, but scholarship + blue blood (more NHL scouting attention, which imo is a reason Robertson transferred to Michigan) + NIL (+ let's face it, Ithaca isn't Boston) is going to turn heads.
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BearLover

#87
People are missing the point. It isn't about why a player would choose BC over Cornell. Kids have been choosing BC over Cornell for the past 40 years. This is about a 20-year-old kid having been committed to Cornell for over two years, Cornell having the chance to bring him to campus six months ago after a good year in the USHL, and then the kid decommitting. Meanwhile, Cornell brought in some younger kids who did not have success in the USHL or lesser leagues. That's the interesting question here, not why a kid might choose BC over Cornell.

(By the way, I also disagree with some of the reasons stated for why he or Robertson bolted, but that's beside the point.)

scoop85

Nobody knows why he didn't come as part of this year's class so your speculation is just that.

We've benefitted from recruiting flips (Walsh was committed to Brown initially)

marty

Quote from: scoop85 on November 04, 2025, 01:05:49 PMNobody knows why he didn't come as part of this year's class so your speculation is just that.

We've benefitted from recruiting flips (Walsh was committed to Brown initially)

True.  What I haven't seen the team benefit from is endless speculation.  Yet it seems more endless than ever.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."