Recruits 2026 and Beyond

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BearLover

Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:40:53 PMDec keeps balling. 4 points tonight
Dec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft. Given his big numbers in AAA I was hopeful Henry Major would produce like Charlie did with the Chicago Steel but that hasn't happened. Not sure if late CHL recruits like Cournoyer are in the cards but the staff needs to step it up, I'm definitely not content with the pipeline right now.

Henry seems to be doing fine. He's a year ahead of Charlie in his progression. He's on track to double Charlie's production as a comparable 18yo. Charlie blew up as a 19yo; Alex blew up as a 20yo. Of course teams are different, linemates are different, maturity rates are different, so comparing stats isn't going to offer us much more than conversation points.
Is this really the case though? Looks to me like just a 6 month difference, with Henry's birthday in April and Charlie's in September. I'm comparing both in their second year of USHL with the Steel. AFAICT I'm comparing the same year of development. Both would be 19 when their junior career ends/when they matriculate, unless Henry goes back for another year.

ithacat

Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:40:53 PMDec keeps balling. 4 points tonight
Dec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft. Given his big numbers in AAA I was hopeful Henry Major would produce like Charlie did with the Chicago Steel but that hasn't happened. Not sure if late CHL recruits like Cournoyer are in the cards but the staff needs to step it up, I'm definitely not content with the pipeline right now.

Henry seems to be doing fine. He's a year ahead of Charlie in his progression. He's on track to double Charlie's production as a comparable 18yo. Charlie blew up as a 19yo; Alex blew up as a 20yo. Of course teams are different, linemates are different, maturity rates are different, so comparing stats isn't going to offer us much more than conversation points.
Is this really the case though? Looks to me like just a 6 month difference, with Henry's birthday in April and Charlie's in September. I'm comparing both in their second year of USHL with the Steel. AFAICT I'm comparing the same year of development. Both would be 19 when their junior career ends/when they matriculate, unless Henry goes back for another year.

I'm looking at it as Henry went from U16 to the USHL while Charlie spent a year at U18 and then went to the USHL. There is no doubt that Charlie's 2nd year with Chicago saw a much bigger jump in production than Henry's has seen so far. Charlie had the benefit of being older and having an extra year of development. It may have benefited Henry more to have spent last year at BK Selects with the U18s where he would have received a lot of ice time, but he stepped up a level and let's hope that pays off for him in the future. I think Charlie was 20 when he first played for Cornell and if Henry comes in next season he would turn 20 at the end of his freshman season, if my math is correct. I don't know if it's a big deal.

BearLover

Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:40:53 PMDec keeps balling. 4 points tonight
Dec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft. Given his big numbers in AAA I was hopeful Henry Major would produce like Charlie did with the Chicago Steel but that hasn't happened. Not sure if late CHL recruits like Cournoyer are in the cards but the staff needs to step it up, I'm definitely not content with the pipeline right now.

Henry seems to be doing fine. He's a year ahead of Charlie in his progression. He's on track to double Charlie's production as a comparable 18yo. Charlie blew up as a 19yo; Alex blew up as a 20yo. Of course teams are different, linemates are different, maturity rates are different, so comparing stats isn't going to offer us much more than conversation points.
Is this really the case though? Looks to me like just a 6 month difference, with Henry's birthday in April and Charlie's in September. I'm comparing both in their second year of USHL with the Steel. AFAICT I'm comparing the same year of development. Both would be 19 when their junior career ends/when they matriculate, unless Henry goes back for another year.

I'm looking at it as Henry went from U16 to the USHL while Charlie spent a year at U18 and then went to the USHL. There is no doubt that Charlie's 2nd year with Chicago saw a much bigger jump in production than Henry's has seen so far. Charlie had the benefit of being older and having an extra year of development. It may have benefited Henry more to have spent last year at BK Selects with the U18s where he would have received a lot of ice time, but he stepped up a level and let's hope that pays off for him in the future. I think Charlie was 20 when he first played for Cornell and if Henry comes in next season he would turn 20 at the end of his freshman season, if my math is correct. I don't know if it's a big deal.
Fair enough. It will be interesting to see if he plays another year of junior hockey.

ithacat

Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:40:53 PMDec keeps balling. 4 points tonight
Dec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft. Given his big numbers in AAA I was hopeful Henry Major would produce like Charlie did with the Chicago Steel but that hasn't happened. Not sure if late CHL recruits like Cournoyer are in the cards but the staff needs to step it up, I'm definitely not content with the pipeline right now.

Henry seems to be doing fine. He's a year ahead of Charlie in his progression. He's on track to double Charlie's production as a comparable 18yo. Charlie blew up as a 19yo; Alex blew up as a 20yo. Of course teams are different, linemates are different, maturity rates are different, so comparing stats isn't going to offer us much more than conversation points.
Is this really the case though? Looks to me like just a 6 month difference, with Henry's birthday in April and Charlie's in September. I'm comparing both in their second year of USHL with the Steel. AFAICT I'm comparing the same year of development. Both would be 19 when their junior career ends/when they matriculate, unless Henry goes back for another year.

I'm looking at it as Henry went from U16 to the USHL while Charlie spent a year at U18 and then went to the USHL. There is no doubt that Charlie's 2nd year with Chicago saw a much bigger jump in production than Henry's has seen so far. Charlie had the benefit of being older and having an extra year of development. It may have benefited Henry more to have spent last year at BK Selects with the U18s where he would have received a lot of ice time, but he stepped up a level and let's hope that pays off for him in the future. I think Charlie was 20 when he first played for Cornell and if Henry comes in next season he would turn 20 at the end of his freshman season, if my math is correct. I don't know if it's a big deal.
Fair enough. It will be interesting to see if he plays another year of junior hockey.

It would be nice to see them play together for a couple years.

Sister Cora looks to be having a strong year at Northwood School. She might be the best of the 3: As a 16yo defenseman, 36-11-26-37.

BearLover

Quote from: ithacat on December 08, 2025, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:40:53 PMDec keeps balling. 4 points tonight
Dec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft. Given his big numbers in AAA I was hopeful Henry Major would produce like Charlie did with the Chicago Steel but that hasn't happened. Not sure if late CHL recruits like Cournoyer are in the cards but the staff needs to step it up, I'm definitely not content with the pipeline right now.

Henry seems to be doing fine. He's a year ahead of Charlie in his progression. He's on track to double Charlie's production as a comparable 18yo. Charlie blew up as a 19yo; Alex blew up as a 20yo. Of course teams are different, linemates are different, maturity rates are different, so comparing stats isn't going to offer us much more than conversation points.
Is this really the case though? Looks to me like just a 6 month difference, with Henry's birthday in April and Charlie's in September. I'm comparing both in their second year of USHL with the Steel. AFAICT I'm comparing the same year of development. Both would be 19 when their junior career ends/when they matriculate, unless Henry goes back for another year.

I'm looking at it as Henry went from U16 to the USHL while Charlie spent a year at U18 and then went to the USHL. There is no doubt that Charlie's 2nd year with Chicago saw a much bigger jump in production than Henry's has seen so far. Charlie had the benefit of being older and having an extra year of development. It may have benefited Henry more to have spent last year at BK Selects with the U18s where he would have received a lot of ice time, but he stepped up a level and let's hope that pays off for him in the future. I think Charlie was 20 when he first played for Cornell and if Henry comes in next season he would turn 20 at the end of his freshman season, if my math is correct. I don't know if it's a big deal.
Fair enough. It will be interesting to see if he plays another year of junior hockey.

It would be nice to see them play together for a couple years.

Sister Cora looks to be having a strong year at Northwood School. She might be the best of the 3: As a 16yo defenseman, 36-11-26-37.
Oh, right. I wasn't even thinking of that. Yeah, I expect he'll be on campus next fall.

Might Cora come to Cornell?

ugarte

Quote from: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 01:34:22 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 08, 2025, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: ithacat on December 07, 2025, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:40:53 PMDec keeps balling. 4 points tonight
Dec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft. Given his big numbers in AAA I was hopeful Henry Major would produce like Charlie did with the Chicago Steel but that hasn't happened. Not sure if late CHL recruits like Cournoyer are in the cards but the staff needs to step it up, I'm definitely not content with the pipeline right now.

Henry seems to be doing fine. He's a year ahead of Charlie in his progression. He's on track to double Charlie's production as a comparable 18yo. Charlie blew up as a 19yo; Alex blew up as a 20yo. Of course teams are different, linemates are different, maturity rates are different, so comparing stats isn't going to offer us much more than conversation points.
Is this really the case though? Looks to me like just a 6 month difference, with Henry's birthday in April and Charlie's in September. I'm comparing both in their second year of USHL with the Steel. AFAICT I'm comparing the same year of development. Both would be 19 when their junior career ends/when they matriculate, unless Henry goes back for another year.

I'm looking at it as Henry went from U16 to the USHL while Charlie spent a year at U18 and then went to the USHL. There is no doubt that Charlie's 2nd year with Chicago saw a much bigger jump in production than Henry's has seen so far. Charlie had the benefit of being older and having an extra year of development. It may have benefited Henry more to have spent last year at BK Selects with the U18s where he would have received a lot of ice time, but he stepped up a level and let's hope that pays off for him in the future. I think Charlie was 20 when he first played for Cornell and if Henry comes in next season he would turn 20 at the end of his freshman season, if my math is correct. I don't know if it's a big deal.
Fair enough. It will be interesting to see if he plays another year of junior hockey.

It would be nice to see them play together for a couple years.

Sister Cora looks to be having a strong year at Northwood School. She might be the best of the 3: As a 16yo defenseman, 36-11-26-37.
Oh, right. I wasn't even thinking of that. Yeah, I expect he'll be on campus next fall.

Might Cora come to Cornell?
If Casey doesn't defer her.

adamw

Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 11:08:46 PMMeh, CHL players haven't been hugely successful for the most part. I still would take a USHL point per game player over a CHL one
Depends where you look. CHN recently had an article that the top 3 scorers in college are from the CHL.

freshman scorers - though at the moment, it's three of the top 6. The leader is Wyttenbach - not an MJ player.
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

Trotsky

I think we missed this guy, or anyway I don't recall him.

Nolan Long
F
6-0
176
5/22/08
St. Andrew's Saints (Can Prep)
Mono, ON


Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PMDec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft.

TBRW list.

Of these you are saying Dec is the only one who may be drafted?

scoop85

Quote from: Trotsky on December 11, 2025, 03:05:41 AMI think we missed this guy, or anyway I don't recall him.

Nolan Long
F
6-0
176
5/22/08
St. Andrew's Saints (Can Prep)
Mono, ON



Aidan's brother

BearLover

Quote from: Trotsky on December 11, 2025, 03:23:05 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PMDec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft.

TBRW list.

Of these you are saying Dec is the only one who may be drafted?
I don't think Dec will be drafted because he's 5'9 and was passed over in the 2025 draft. NHL central scouting ranked Cole Tuminaro and Charlie Puglisi as potential late round picks, so they seemingly have the best shot. I thought Cole Emerson might have a chance too but he didn't make the rankings.  NHL scouts really value size, especially when it comes to defensemen.

scoop85

Quote from: BearLover on December 11, 2025, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 11, 2025, 03:23:05 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PMDec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft.

TBRW list.

Of these you are saying Dec is the only one who may be drafted?
I don't think Dec will be drafted because he's 5'9 and was passed over in the 2025 draft. NHL central scouting ranked Cole Tuminaro and Charlie Puglisi as potential late round picks, so they seemingly have the best shot. I thought Cole Emerson might have a chance too but he didn't make the rankings.  NHL scouts really value size, especially when
 it comes to defensemen.

Unless a 5'9 guy is truly elite (think Cole Caufield), it's tough for them to get drafted. Dec looks like he has the potential to put up a lot of points at the college level, and seems to profile similarly to Charlie Major. I think we'd all sign up for that.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover on December 11, 2025, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 11, 2025, 03:23:05 AM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:51:06 PMDec looks good. Overall though the recruits are not producing much. We are on track for 0 or 1 players taken in this year's NHL draft.

TBRW list.

Of these you are saying Dec is the only one who may be drafted?
I don't think Dec will be drafted because he's 5'9 and was passed over in the 2025 draft. NHL central scouting ranked Cole Tuminaro and Charlie Puglisi as potential late round picks, so they seemingly have the best shot. I thought Cole Emerson might have a chance too but he didn't make the rankings.  NHL scouts really value size, especially when it comes to defensemen.
Thanks.

stereax

NHL scouts value size an insane amount. Not to bring them up again, but if either of Lane or Cole Hutson were 6 foot, they'd definitely have gone in the first round of the draft - elite skill, but the worry is they're "too small". Meanwhile, you have many GMs picking guys who are 6'3" and look like pylons on the ice because big.

A couple teams, like Dallas and Carolina, draft super well and don't look at size very much. Most, though, consider it a pretty big factor. Especially if you're not a superstar, the bigger guys tend to make more room for themselves on the ice.
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chimpfood

Around the mid season point so why not take a stab at our newcomers for next year. We lose the five seniors for sure. At this point I am also going to guess that we lose two others, one or two of Walsh/Castagna/Fegaras, and maybe a transfer if we are unlucky. This means an estimate of seven losses from this years roster, but our roster this year is massive, so we probably only need to bring in around 4 or 5 new guys.

So, looking at our recruit list I would say that Dec, Wehmann and Tuminaro are most ready to come in. I would prefer to see Major and Marmulak get another year in the juniors because they would both have a really tough time finding playing time with us, but I wouldn't be shocked if Major comes in because he is Charlie's brother.

Right now we certainly don't have the issue of overcommitting guys, and I think we could do well to go out and get another older guy who is ready for next year (work your French magic Casey). I think the talent we have coming in is good, and the positions line up well with what we are losing.

Other recruits of note: Emerton is producing in the OHL but he is still 17 and it is pretty much all assists. Looks like a good prospect but give him another year at least. Nolan Long is producing a bit for Saint Andrews, but again he is just 17 and doesn't seem like a super high end talent that can make the jump straight from prep to college, so give him a year in the OHL.

After the guys already mentioned, the rest of our guys in the juniors producing less but still young. Wotton and Kirkwood are on a truly horrendous Baie Como-Drakkar team and not doing a lot on the scoresheet. Henri Ament has been a complete ghost in the WHL as an 18 year old (not a good sign) and Anthony Dontigny isn't putting up points in the BCHL. Luckily the prep talent looks better.