Ben Robertson transfer

Started by Big Dingus, April 07, 2025, 02:05:57 PM

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ugarte

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Quote from: BearLoverAnd now it's official. I'm honestly curious. We have had 0 decommits among the 20 or so kids who were committed at the time Casey took over. Nobody else on the team has transferred out. Robertson has almost no chance of an NHL career. He was on the first D pairing, first PP unit, and alongside Rego got more TOI than anybody on the entire team. His team won back to back league championships and was one goal from the frozen four twice in his two years. He was going to one of the best schools in the world. Whatever was troubling Robertson this year about his situation, it seems unique to him. Or maybe he is uniquely disloyal.

There's so much we're never going to know. Maybe he loves non-contiguous states. Maybe he had a bad breakup and wants to change time zones. Maybe he's just over Ithaca.
i think the "no NIL in hockey" is probably overstated. especially if B1G wants to change that. beyond that though, i'll bet the facilities kick ass and his tuition payments are gone. Virginia isn't a hockey hotbed and idk enough about the USHL to know if his performance up to the time he committed here was good enough to get much attention (42A in 61G in his last season in Waterloo is nice though). i don't think much about loyalty. it's never a two-way street in sports. if you're going to speculate that he was uniquely unhappy, i'm going to counterspeculate that he wasn't unhappy at all but got a scholarship offer to a school on par with our own (hockey and classroom) that wasn't on the table two years ago.
Robertson was if I recall correctly the second highest scoring D in the entire USHL (the best junior league) and ranked by NHL Central Scouting. He wasn't flying under the radar the year prior to matriculating. Maybe he was slightly under the radar at the time he committed, but that describes pretty much EVERY Cornell recruit. And yet it's only Robertson, not Walsh or Castagna or Malinski or whoever else, who decided to ditch the program. If Robertson was happy in Ithaca but decided to ditch for money and better facilities, then we're staring at an extremely dark future for Cornell Hockey because that same offer is on the table for EVERY good player of ours.
always has been. i don't pretend to know robertson's circumstances or preferences. we might be in very dark times but just add it to the list, man.

BearLover

Quote from: ugarte
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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLoverAnd now it's official. I'm honestly curious. We have had 0 decommits among the 20 or so kids who were committed at the time Casey took over. Nobody else on the team has transferred out. Robertson has almost no chance of an NHL career. He was on the first D pairing, first PP unit, and alongside Rego got more TOI than anybody on the entire team. His team won back to back league championships and was one goal from the frozen four twice in his two years. He was going to one of the best schools in the world. Whatever was troubling Robertson this year about his situation, it seems unique to him. Or maybe he is uniquely disloyal.

There's so much we're never going to know. Maybe he loves non-contiguous states. Maybe he had a bad breakup and wants to change time zones. Maybe he's just over Ithaca.
i think the "no NIL in hockey" is probably overstated. especially if B1G wants to change that. beyond that though, i'll bet the facilities kick ass and his tuition payments are gone. Virginia isn't a hockey hotbed and idk enough about the USHL to know if his performance up to the time he committed here was good enough to get much attention (42A in 61G in his last season in Waterloo is nice though). i don't think much about loyalty. it's never a two-way street in sports. if you're going to speculate that he was uniquely unhappy, i'm going to counterspeculate that he wasn't unhappy at all but got a scholarship offer to a school on par with our own (hockey and classroom) that wasn't on the table two years ago.
Robertson was if I recall correctly the second highest scoring D in the entire USHL (the best junior league) and ranked by NHL Central Scouting. He wasn't flying under the radar the year prior to matriculating. Maybe he was slightly under the radar at the time he committed, but that describes pretty much EVERY Cornell recruit. And yet it's only Robertson, not Walsh or Castagna or Malinski or whoever else, who decided to ditch the program. If Robertson was happy in Ithaca but decided to ditch for money and better facilities, then we're staring at an extremely dark future for Cornell Hockey because that same offer is on the table for EVERY good player of ours.
always has been. i don't pretend to know robertson's circumstances or preferences. we might be in very dark times but just add it to the list, man.
Unless this becomes a trend, I think it's reasonable infer this is a Robertson thing (academics, not liking the coaches, struck out with all the sorority girls), not an NIL or Big 10 thing. There are a lot of great players on Cornell who could have left anytime they wanted.

ugarte

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLoverAnd now it's official. I'm honestly curious. We have had 0 decommits among the 20 or so kids who were committed at the time Casey took over. Nobody else on the team has transferred out. Robertson has almost no chance of an NHL career. He was on the first D pairing, first PP unit, and alongside Rego got more TOI than anybody on the entire team. His team won back to back league championships and was one goal from the frozen four twice in his two years. He was going to one of the best schools in the world. Whatever was troubling Robertson this year about his situation, it seems unique to him. Or maybe he is uniquely disloyal.

There's so much we're never going to know. Maybe he loves non-contiguous states. Maybe he had a bad breakup and wants to change time zones. Maybe he's just over Ithaca.
i think the "no NIL in hockey" is probably overstated. especially if B1G wants to change that. beyond that though, i'll bet the facilities kick ass and his tuition payments are gone. Virginia isn't a hockey hotbed and idk enough about the USHL to know if his performance up to the time he committed here was good enough to get much attention (42A in 61G in his last season in Waterloo is nice though). i don't think much about loyalty. it's never a two-way street in sports. if you're going to speculate that he was uniquely unhappy, i'm going to counterspeculate that he wasn't unhappy at all but got a scholarship offer to a school on par with our own (hockey and classroom) that wasn't on the table two years ago.
Robertson was if I recall correctly the second highest scoring D in the entire USHL (the best junior league) and ranked by NHL Central Scouting. He wasn't flying under the radar the year prior to matriculating. Maybe he was slightly under the radar at the time he committed, but that describes pretty much EVERY Cornell recruit. And yet it's only Robertson, not Walsh or Castagna or Malinski or whoever else, who decided to ditch the program. If Robertson was happy in Ithaca but decided to ditch for money and better facilities, then we're staring at an extremely dark future for Cornell Hockey because that same offer is on the table for EVERY good player of ours.
always has been. i don't pretend to know robertson's circumstances or preferences. we might be in very dark times but just add it to the list, man.
Unless this becomes a trend, I think it's reasonable infer this is a Robertson thing (academics, not liking the coaches, struck out with all the sorority girls), not an NIL or Big 10 thing. There are a lot of great players on Cornell who could have left anytime they wanted.
ok fine but you don't have to wish his dog dies because of it

Swampy

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: BearLoverAnd now it's official. I'm honestly curious. We have had 0 decommits among the 20 or so kids who were committed at the time Casey took over. Nobody else on the team has transferred out. Robertson has almost no chance of an NHL career. He was on the first D pairing, first PP unit, and alongside Rego got more TOI than anybody on the entire team. His team won back to back league championships and was one goal from the frozen four twice in his two years. He was going to one of the best schools in the world. Whatever was troubling Robertson this year about his situation, it seems unique to him. Or maybe he is uniquely disloyal.

There's so much we're never going to know. Maybe he loves non-contiguous states. Maybe he had a bad breakup and wants to change time zones. Maybe he's just over Ithaca.
i think the "no NIL in hockey" is probably overstated. especially if B1G wants to change that. beyond that though, i'll bet the facilities kick ass and his tuition payments are gone. Virginia isn't a hockey hotbed and idk enough about the USHL to know if his performance up to the time he committed here was good enough to get much attention (42A in 61G in his last season in Waterloo is nice though). i don't think much about loyalty. it's never a two-way street in sports. if you're going to speculate that he was uniquely unhappy, i'm going to counterspeculate that he wasn't unhappy at all but got a scholarship offer to a school on par with our own (hockey and classroom) that wasn't on the table two years ago.
Robertson was if I recall correctly the second highest scoring D in the entire USHL (the best junior league) and ranked by NHL Central Scouting. He wasn't flying under the radar the year prior to matriculating. Maybe he was slightly under the radar at the time he committed, but that describes pretty much EVERY Cornell recruit. And yet it's only Robertson, not Walsh or Castagna or Malinski or whoever else, who decided to ditch the program. If Robertson was happy in Ithaca but decided to ditch for money and better facilities, then we're staring at an extremely dark future for Cornell Hockey because that same offer is on the table for EVERY good player of ours.
always has been. i don't pretend to know robertson's circumstances or preferences. we might be in very dark times but just add it to the list, man.
Unless this becomes a trend, I think it's reasonable infer this is a Robertson thing (academics, not liking the coaches, struck out with all the sorority girls), not an NIL or Big 10 thing. There are a lot of great players on Cornell who could have left anytime they wanted.
ok fine but you don't have to wish his dog dies because of it

How about poisoning his dog?

Seriously, I've had D-1 athletes tell me they never realized how much of a business D-1 sports are until they started college. Maybe for Robinson it was a business decision, pure and simple.

BearLover

There's only one way to wash off this stink. It rhymes with "gornell bacross pinning a washional quampionship."

Iceberg

The fact that he's at Michigan tells me it's less about academic reasons and more about other stuff (perhaps financial aid). Maybe we find out more later or maybe we don't

The Rancor

Quote from: BearLoverOr maybe he is uniquely disloyal.

Please go away with this nonsense.

The Rancor

If you want to play in the NHL, via NCAA Hockey, you go play at Michigan, or the like. Not that we don't make NHL players, but the shot is better from Ann Arbor. Simple.

BearLover

Quote from: The RancorIf you want to play in the NHL, via NCAA Hockey, you go play at Michigan, or the like. Not that we don't make NHL players, but the shot is better from Ann Arbor. Simple.
Nope. Your causation is backwards.

BearLover

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Quote from: BearLoverOr maybe he is uniquely disloyal.

Please go away with this nonsense.
He bailed on his school and his teammates when nobody else did.

Snowball

Let's move on from this.

How about this headline in the NYT:

Canada Reschedules Political Debate That Conflicted With a Hockey Game

There's a country with the right priorities!

stereax

Quote from: SnowballLet's move on from this.

How about this headline in the NYT:

Canada Reschedules Political Debate That Conflicted With a Hockey Game

There's a country with the right priorities!
Amen!
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HeafDog

Quote from: DafatoneThere's so much we're never going to know. Maybe he loves non-contiguous states.

Got a chuckle out of that. Though I would point out that Michigan does not hold an advantage over New York in that regard. Must be for some other reason. :-D

Dafatone

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Quote from: DafatoneThere's so much we're never going to know. Maybe he loves non-contiguous states.

Got a chuckle out of that. Though I would point out that Michigan does not hold an advantage over New York in that regard. Must be for some other reason. :-D

I was actually talking about this recently with someone. New York also qualifies, but so does every state with an island, which is less exciting.

marty

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Quote from: BearLoverOr maybe he is uniquely disloyal.

Please go away with this nonsense.

FYP!
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."