Ben Robertson transfer

Started by Big Dingus, April 07, 2025, 02:05:57 PM

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upprdeck

well if the NIL Budget is 500K and you split it 10-20 ways and the top few guys get 50K you are not leaving a ton for most of the rest. it could be 10-20K is next to zero to him.

BearLover

Quote from: upprdeck on March 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PMwell if the NIL Budget is 500K and you split it 10-20 ways and the top few guys get 50K you are not leaving a ton for most of the rest. it could be 10-20K is next to zero to him.
He was talking about the team as a whole

marty

"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

adamw

As I've said before, believe what you want. Nothing about what's going on with rev share is a "rumor." Sorry that no media outlet can provide bank statements as evidence.
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adamw

Quote from: adamw on March 18, 2026, 08:22:18 PMAs I've said before, believe what you want. Nothing about what's going on with rev share is a "rumor." Sorry that no media outlet can provide bank statements as evidence.

BTW - BU is opting in this year. Heard this from 3 people. They have no choice. And yes, they have an NIL Collective which doles out money. I know people on the board of it. Hockey people. Whatever Caron said is woefully wrong or misinterpreted. They gave $50,000 to Boisvert, for example. But if you notice, they did this before the NIL Go clearinghouse was created last year, to get in under the wire. Now those kinds of deals are getting rejected. So if they don't opt in to revenue share, they will not be able to pay players. So that is coming soon.

All of this is in a story I'm trying to publish - but it's difficult this time of year with actual games going on.

Sorry I don't have bank statements.
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stereax

Quote from: adamw on March 19, 2026, 11:52:48 AM
Quote from: adamw on March 18, 2026, 08:22:18 PMAs I've said before, believe what you want. Nothing about what's going on with rev share is a "rumor." Sorry that no media outlet can provide bank statements as evidence.

BTW - BU is opting in this year. Heard this from 3 people. They have no choice. And yes, they have an NIL Collective which doles out money. I know people on the board of it. Hockey people. Whatever Caron said is woefully wrong or misinterpreted. They gave $50,000 to Boisvert, for example. But if you notice, they did this before the NIL Go clearinghouse was created last year, to get in under the wire. Now those kinds of deals are getting rejected. So if they don't opt in to revenue share, they will not be able to pay players. So that is coming soon.

All of this is in a story I'm trying to publish - but it's difficult this time of year with actual games going on.

Sorry I don't have bank statements.
I think two things can be true -

1) they're paying guys like Boisvert, a highly-regarded first-rounder prospect, to transfer in
2) they're not paying guys like Caron, an undrafted goalie (who transferred in from Brown, where he was on the hook for every penny) who ended up in France
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Dafatone

Quote from: stereax on March 19, 2026, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: adamw on March 19, 2026, 11:52:48 AM
Quote from: adamw on March 18, 2026, 08:22:18 PMAs I've said before, believe what you want. Nothing about what's going on with rev share is a "rumor." Sorry that no media outlet can provide bank statements as evidence.

BTW - BU is opting in this year. Heard this from 3 people. They have no choice. And yes, they have an NIL Collective which doles out money. I know people on the board of it. Hockey people. Whatever Caron said is woefully wrong or misinterpreted. They gave $50,000 to Boisvert, for example. But if you notice, they did this before the NIL Go clearinghouse was created last year, to get in under the wire. Now those kinds of deals are getting rejected. So if they don't opt in to revenue share, they will not be able to pay players. So that is coming soon.

All of this is in a story I'm trying to publish - but it's difficult this time of year with actual games going on.

Sorry I don't have bank statements.
I think two things can be true -

1) they're paying guys like Boisvert, a highly-regarded first-rounder prospect, to transfer in
2) they're not paying guys like Caron, an undrafted goalie (who transferred in from Brown, where he was on the hook for every penny) who ended up in France

I also wonder, and I am 100% talking out of my ass here, if under the table payments still might happen from time to time even now.

BearLover

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: BearLover on March 19, 2026, 12:39:16 PMI'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

     "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.
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BearLover

Quote from: Jim Hyla on March 19, 2026, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: BearLover on March 19, 2026, 12:39:16 PMI'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

     "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.
I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

ugarte

Caron was equivocal at best and more likely dodging the question.

BearLover

Quote from: ugarte on March 19, 2026, 05:07:37 PMCaron was equivocal at best and more likely dodging the question.
This seems completely wrong. I've heard plenty of coaches dodge this question by saying things like "guys are getting something but it's not life-changing money." Caron said nothing like that. He literally said he's not aware of anyone on the team getting anything aside from some Bauer-like endorsements. He made clear that it's nothing like what guys might be getting in the Big 10. Setting aside the (nonsensical) possibility that someone who played on the team for two years is completely oblivious to how much anyone else on the team is making, this was the most unequivocal denial of NIL I've heard short of WMU coach Pat Ferschweiler saying on a different podcast that no one on last year's nationally championship roster earned any payment whatsoever.

ugarte

Quote from: BearLover on March 19, 2026, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: ugarte on March 19, 2026, 05:07:37 PMCaron was equivocal at best and more likely dodging the question.
This seems completely wrong. I've heard plenty of coaches dodge this question by saying things like "guys are getting something but it's not life-changing money." Caron said nothing like that. He literally said he's not aware of anyone on the team getting anything aside from some Bauer-like endorsements. He made clear that it's nothing like what guys might be getting in the Big 10. Setting aside the (nonsensical) possibility that someone who played on the team for two years is completely oblivious to how much anyone else on the team is making, this was the most unequivocal denial of NIL I've heard short of WMU coach Pat Ferschweiler saying on a different podcast that no one on last year's nationally championship roster earned any payment whatsoever.
ok. i guess i just don't recognize the word no in deep disguise.

billhoward

Quote from: BearLover on March 19, 2026, 12:39:16 PMThe biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...
Since the time Moses brought down from Mount Sinai the stones with the Fifteen, oops, Ten Commandments, the words "BU" and "football program to bring in insane money" have not appeared together.

stereax

Quote from: billhoward on March 19, 2026, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: BearLover on March 19, 2026, 12:39:16 PMThe biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...
Since the time Moses brought down from Mount Sinai the stones with the Fifteen, oops, Ten Commandments, the words "BU" and "football program to bring in insane money" have not appeared together.
BU does not have a football program to bring in insane money.

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