Ben Robertson transfer

[adamw]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.

that may or may not be true - but how is that relevant? All schools are in the process of creatively figuring out ways to raise more money. Shifting, begging donors to do more, turning over every rock. Whatever. This is happening across every sport, every school, everywhere.  There's a new story every day about how some donor stepped up and gave X,Y,Z to this program or that.  Lake Superior State - of all places - announced that someone was donating $1 million to its hockey program. Next thing you know - they stole a recruit from an ECAC school by offering $50,000 to switch commitments.

whether this is harmful, helpful, no big deal, or whatever - that's an opinion. All I'm telling you is - it's happening.

If some of the Ivy League schools and non-Ivy ECAC schools would opt-in - or be allowed to opt-in ... any one of their many billionaire alums could dump $100 million into their pot - and use it to pay players. At the moment - not allowed. But this is happening all over.

And it's all relative. I mean, St. John's basketball suddenly got good again because a major billionaire decided to dump wads of cash in. About $4 to $5 million per year.  That kind of level of cash wasn't being donated to the St. John's basketball program before.  But this guy wanted to help buy players.  He wasn't donating to buy sneakers before.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/14/inside-the-billionaire-nil-donor-behind-st-johns-basketball-success/

So - this is - and will - continue to happen, at various levels everywhere. Including college hockey.

[Old Red]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.

that may or may not be true - but how is that relevant? All schools are in the process of creatively figuring out ways to raise more money. Shifting, begging donors to do more, turning over every rock. Whatever. This is happening across every sport, every school, everywhere.  There's a new story every day about how some donor stepped up and gave X,Y,Z to this program or that.  Lake Superior State - of all places - announced that someone was donating $1 million to its hockey program. Next thing you know - they stole a recruit from an ECAC school by offering $50,000 to switch commitments.

whether this is harmful, helpful, no big deal, or whatever - that's an opinion. All I'm telling you is - it's happening.

If some of the Ivy League schools and non-Ivy ECAC schools would opt-in - or be allowed to opt-in ... any one of their many billionaire alums could dump $100 million into their pot - and use it to pay players. At the moment - not allowed. But this is happening all over.

And it's all relative. I mean, St. John's basketball suddenly got good again because a major billionaire decided to dump wads of cash in. About $4 to $5 million per year.  That kind of level of cash wasn't being donated to the St. John's basketball program before.  But this guy wanted to help buy players.  He wasn't donating to buy sneakers before.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/14/inside-the-billionaire-nil-donor-behind-st-johns-basketball-success/

So - this is - and will - continue to happen, at various levels everywhere. Including college hockey.

BearLover, Adam has a very strong point.  Seems to me there is only one approach that will work:  put up or shut up!  Donate $1 millions to the Cornell Hockey team or we will all suffer the consequences of lost national titles.

[The Rancor]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.

that may or may not be true - but how is that relevant? All schools are in the process of creatively figuring out ways to raise more money. Shifting, begging donors to do more, turning over every rock. Whatever. This is happening across every sport, every school, everywhere.  There's a new story every day about how some donor stepped up and gave X,Y,Z to this program or that.  Lake Superior State - of all places - announced that someone was donating $1 million to its hockey program. Next thing you know - they stole a recruit from an ECAC school by offering $50,000 to switch commitments.

whether this is harmful, helpful, no big deal, or whatever - that's an opinion. All I'm telling you is - it's happening.

If some of the Ivy League schools and non-Ivy ECAC schools would opt-in - or be allowed to opt-in ... any one of their many billionaire alums could dump $100 million into their pot - and use it to pay players. At the moment - not allowed. But this is happening all over.

And it's all relative. I mean, St. John's basketball suddenly got good again because a major billionaire decided to dump wads of cash in. About $4 to $5 million per year.  That kind of level of cash wasn't being donated to the St. John's basketball program before.  But this guy wanted to help buy players.  He wasn't donating to buy sneakers before.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/14/inside-the-billionaire-nil-donor-behind-st-johns-basketball-success/

So - this is - and will - continue to happen, at various levels everywhere. Including college hockey.

BearLover, Adam has a very strong point.  Seems to me there is only one approach that will work:  put up or shut up!  Donate $1 millions to the Cornell Hockey team or we will all suffer the consequences of lost national titles.

Or, he can give all of us 7 grand, since it is so insignificant.

[JasonN95]

Adam, I think you said you have an article in the works. Will you have anything you can say in it about what the Ivy schools or coaches are doing, if anything, to adapt to the changing landscape?

[marty]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

Thank you for responding - is been enlightening. 

[BearLover]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.

that may or may not be true - but how is that relevant? All schools are in the process of creatively figuring out ways to raise more money. Shifting, begging donors to do more, turning over every rock. Whatever. This is happening across every sport, every school, everywhere.  There's a new story every day about how some donor stepped up and gave X,Y,Z to this program or that.  Lake Superior State - of all places - announced that someone was donating $1 million to its hockey program. Next thing you know - they stole a recruit from an ECAC school by offering $50,000 to switch commitments.

whether this is harmful, helpful, no big deal, or whatever - that's an opinion. All I'm telling you is - it's happening.

If some of the Ivy League schools and non-Ivy ECAC schools would opt-in - or be allowed to opt-in ... any one of their many billionaire alums could dump $100 million into their pot - and use it to pay players. At the moment - not allowed. But this is happening all over.

And it's all relative. I mean, St. John's basketball suddenly got good again because a major billionaire decided to dump wads of cash in. About $4 to $5 million per year.  That kind of level of cash wasn't being donated to the St. John's basketball program before.  But this guy wanted to help buy players.  He wasn't donating to buy sneakers before.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/14/inside-the-billionaire-nil-donor-behind-st-johns-basketball-success/

So - this is - and will - continue to happen, at various levels everywhere. Including college hockey.

BearLover, Adam has a very strong point.  Seems to me there is only one approach that will work:  put up or shut up!  Donate $1 millions to the Cornell Hockey team or we will all suffer the consequences of lost national titles.

Or, he can give all of us 7 grand, since it is so insignificant.

That's obviously not what I said. The  point is that in the scheme of $100K cost of attendance, $7K isn't a deal-breaker. And it's a lot less than what most rumors suggest.   

[BearLover]

Adam, I think you said you have an article in the works. Will you have anything you can say in it about what the Ivy schools or coaches are doing, if anything, to adapt to the changing landscape?

Definitely worth it for Adam to ask. But just to be clear, the Ivy League put out a directive forbidding its member schools and athletic departments from organizing/soliciting NIL. So the schools and coaches themselves probably can't do anything in the NIL space. However, the Ivy can't stop third parties—eg. the NIL collective for Penn basketball—which is probably the only path forward. Other than that, I would remind people of my suggestion to set recruits up with internships/jobs. I understand this is currently being pursued.

[marty]

Adam, I think you said you have an article in the works. Will you have anything you can say in it about what the Ivy schools or coaches are doing, if anything, to adapt to the changing landscape?

Definitely worth it for Adam to ask. But just to be clear, the Ivy League put out a directive forbidding its member schools and athletic departments from organizing/soliciting NIL. So the schools and coaches themselves probably can't do anything in the NIL space. However, the Ivy can't stop third parties—eg. the NIL collective for Penn basketball—which is probably the only path forward. Other than that, I would remind people of my suggestion to set recruits up with internships/jobs. I understand this is currently being pursued.

By any of your many ex-emplorers?

[BearLover]

Adam, I think you said you have an article in the works. Will you have anything you can say in it about what the Ivy schools or coaches are doing, if anything, to adapt to the changing landscape?

Definitely worth it for Adam to ask. But just to be clear, the Ivy League put out a directive forbidding its member schools and athletic departments from organizing/soliciting NIL. So the schools and coaches themselves probably can't do anything in the NIL space. However, the Ivy can't stop third parties—eg. the NIL collective for Penn basketball—which is probably the only path forward. Other than that, I would remind people of my suggestion to set recruits up with internships/jobs. I understand this is currently being pursued.

By any of your many ex-emplorers?

By Casey Jones.

[The Rancor]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.

that may or may not be true - but how is that relevant? All schools are in the process of creatively figuring out ways to raise more money. Shifting, begging donors to do more, turning over every rock. Whatever. This is happening across every sport, every school, everywhere.  There's a new story every day about how some donor stepped up and gave X,Y,Z to this program or that.  Lake Superior State - of all places - announced that someone was donating $1 million to its hockey program. Next thing you know - they stole a recruit from an ECAC school by offering $50,000 to switch commitments.

whether this is harmful, helpful, no big deal, or whatever - that's an opinion. All I'm telling you is - it's happening.

If some of the Ivy League schools and non-Ivy ECAC schools would opt-in - or be allowed to opt-in ... any one of their many billionaire alums could dump $100 million into their pot - and use it to pay players. At the moment - not allowed. But this is happening all over.

And it's all relative. I mean, St. John's basketball suddenly got good again because a major billionaire decided to dump wads of cash in. About $4 to $5 million per year.  That kind of level of cash wasn't being donated to the St. John's basketball program before.  But this guy wanted to help buy players.  He wasn't donating to buy sneakers before.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/14/inside-the-billionaire-nil-donor-behind-st-johns-basketball-success/

So - this is - and will - continue to happen, at various levels everywhere. Including college hockey.

BearLover, Adam has a very strong point.  Seems to me there is only one approach that will work:  put up or shut up!  Donate $1 millions to the Cornell Hockey team or we will all suffer the consequences of lost national titles.

Or, he can give all of us 7 grand, since it is so insignificant.

That's obviously not what I said. The  point is that in the scheme of $100K cost of attendance, $7K isn't a deal-breaker. And it's a lot less than what most rumors suggest.   

This might be, of all your obnoxious statements, one of the most atrocious. Please go touch grass, Cake Eater. 

[BearLover]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.

that may or may not be true - but how is that relevant? All schools are in the process of creatively figuring out ways to raise more money. Shifting, begging donors to do more, turning over every rock. Whatever. This is happening across every sport, every school, everywhere.  There's a new story every day about how some donor stepped up and gave X,Y,Z to this program or that.  Lake Superior State - of all places - announced that someone was donating $1 million to its hockey program. Next thing you know - they stole a recruit from an ECAC school by offering $50,000 to switch commitments.

whether this is harmful, helpful, no big deal, or whatever - that's an opinion. All I'm telling you is - it's happening.

If some of the Ivy League schools and non-Ivy ECAC schools would opt-in - or be allowed to opt-in ... any one of their many billionaire alums could dump $100 million into their pot - and use it to pay players. At the moment - not allowed. But this is happening all over.

And it's all relative. I mean, St. John's basketball suddenly got good again because a major billionaire decided to dump wads of cash in. About $4 to $5 million per year.  That kind of level of cash wasn't being donated to the St. John's basketball program before.  But this guy wanted to help buy players.  He wasn't donating to buy sneakers before.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/14/inside-the-billionaire-nil-donor-behind-st-johns-basketball-success/

So - this is - and will - continue to happen, at various levels everywhere. Including college hockey.

BearLover, Adam has a very strong point.  Seems to me there is only one approach that will work:  put up or shut up!  Donate $1 millions to the Cornell Hockey team or we will all suffer the consequences of lost national titles.

Or, he can give all of us 7 grand, since it is so insignificant.

That's obviously not what I said. The  point is that in the scheme of $100K cost of attendance, $7K isn't a deal-breaker. And it's a lot less than what most rumors suggest.   

This might be, of all your obnoxious statements, one of the most atrocious. Please go touch grass, Cake Eater. 

Please enlighten me on what's so bad about my statement. As someone who personally benefitted from financial aid and took out loans to attend school, I'd love to know what makes my post "one of the most atrocious."

[adamw]

Please enlighten me on what's so bad about my statement. As someone who personally benefitted from financial aid and took out loans to attend school, I'd love to know what makes my post "one of the most atrocious."

well, I'd put that comment only about 237th on the list of most atrocious, so no worries.

Like I said - I am not here to argue opinions on the relative value or merit of any of these awards - only to counter factually untrue statements, so that at least everyone can discuss based on reality.

That said - I think you're underselling the impact. Where did you get $7,000 from? Earlier you said $300,000/30 players = $10,000 each.  Well, BU has less than 30 players - but more importantly, that's not really how it's working. I also don't know the exact figure - that's a guesstimate. I do know the Boisvert figure was around $50,000. So you can extrapolate from that that obviously there are some players who get well above the average, and some don't get anything.  So again - look at it from that lens, at least, while you argue/discuss what kind of impact that has.

I mean, not everyone on Penn State got McKenna's $700,000 - which, from what I can gather, is real. Though it's still questionable, given his immigration status, if/when/how he will actually collect. Some of that is NIL and some of that is rev share. And the specifics are still murky.

To address another comment - there will be stuff in the article about the Ivies - but BL is correct that we pretty much know all they can do at this point.

[BearLover]

I am still curious how Boisvert (or McKenna) would get NIL as a non-US resident. Sounds like Adam has the same question.

The $7K was $300K divided by 30 roster spots, after taxes. (I don't know how NIL is taxed though.) That was just an estimate. Maybe BU has 28 rather than 30 roster spots, maybe the tax math is off.

This is a topic for the offseason but if BU is only spending $300K then I believe Cornell could definitely match or exceed that if alumni organized. Anybody here know Cornell hockey's budget and fundraising numbers in a typical year?

And no, The Rancor, I cannot fund the Cornell Hockey NIL Collective myself. You calling me an elitist is frankly the stupidest criticism I've received on this website lmao. I would, however, donate $100.

[adamw]

I am still curious how Boisvert (or McKenna) would get NIL as a non-US resident. Sounds like Adam has the same question.

The $7K was $300K divided by 30 roster spots, after taxes. (I don't know how NIL is taxed though.) That was just an estimate. Maybe BU has 28 rather than 30 roster spots, maybe the tax math is off.

This is a topic for the offseason but if BU is only spending $300K then I believe Cornell could definitely match or exceed that if alumni organized. Anybody here know Cornell hockey's budget and fundraising numbers in a typical year?

And no, The Rancor, I cannot fund the Cornell Hockey NIL Collective myself. You calling me an elitist is frankly the stupidest criticism I've received on this website lmao. I would, however, donate $100.

I think that $300k number will go up once they opt in. BC is definitely way above that, and anything BU does will be to keep up with BC.

I do have a lot of questions about NIL/rev-share/and Canadians. I've asked many people, and it's still murky. The best I ever get is "there are ways."