Ben Robertson transfer

[upprdeck]

hard to get NIL as a canadian without being creative. where does BU come up with money to spend from revenue.  They dont get much from hockey TV and they get basically none from FB and BB TV money

[BearLover]

hard to get NIL as a canadian without being creative. where does BU come up with money to spend from revenue.  They dont get much from hockey TV and they get basically none from FB and BB TV money

Some have been asking this very question

[Dafatone]

hard to get NIL as a canadian without being creative. where does BU come up with money to spend from revenue.  They dont get much from hockey TV and they get basically none from FB and BB TV money

Some have been asking this very question

Next you're going to say that "they're BU. They were the only private school that offered me a scholarship. I'm sure they could find the money somewhere" isn't a scientific or data driven (or useful) answer.

[BearLover]

Having won this argument, I will now turn my attention to a brand new debate...stay tuned

[abmarks]

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

[BearLover]

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

[abmarks]

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

Do you know what all your coworkers get paid?

[marty]

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

Do you know what all your coworkers get paid?

Don't wait too long for an answer.  BLer BSer "proactively" stopped posting on this thread on the 18th.

[BearLover]

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

Do you know what all your coworkers get paid?

Yes

But also, completely different situation when you have just 25 coworkers with whom you spend almost every waking hour

[BearLover]

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

I'm not engaging other than to quote the interview with Caron.

Host asks him: "were [the big names on the roster] getting NIL deals/getting paid and I was wondering if you have ever experienced that as well?"

Caron: "Canadians are on student visas so it's a little bit different.

The biggest sport at BU is hockey...no football program to bring in insane money...you saw guys like Bauer guys, Macklin [Celebrini] was CCM...it was more like that...I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU...BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools."

Pretty clear he's talking about the team as a whole, and that the only NIL he was aware of was independent deals with eg. Bauer that were not organized through BU.

But he didn't say that players didn't receive money.

In fact he even says that he couldn't say if players made money.

      "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU."

And his statement about NIL,

    "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL]"

is kind of vague about what the school might be doing with alum, boosters, etc.

I'm confused. How would the school be paying players with alums, boosters, etc. if not for NIL? That's precisely the way they would get paid.

I encourage you to listen to the interview. The clear context is that a couple stars like Macklin Celebrini might have Bauer endorsements and similar, but there is no coordinated NIL project on the part of BU.

I have said it before, and I will say it again: bearlover, your reading comprehension is abysmal and/or you have a remarkable ability to deluxe yourself into thinking something says what it does not.

As several others have already pointed out, "I could not tell you any idea of any money guys actually made at BU" is a very clear statement by caron.    What part of "I could not tell you any idea of my money...".is at all unclear?  It's the same as saying "I have no idea if guys made any money at BU."

And the second part, "BU wasn't necessarily one of the schools [doing NIL], [unlike] the Big 10 schools" is intentionally vague.

How you read all of this as proof that BU wasn't paying any NIL is beyond me.

As already discussed, this interpretation only works if you accept the premise that a guy who was on the team for two full seasons was completely oblivious to what other guys were getting paid.

On to the next debate!

Do you know what all your coworkers get paid?

Don't wait too long for an answer.  BLer BSer "proactively" stopped posting on this thread on the 18th.

The 18th was a major turning point for this thread!

[adamw]

Caron was equivocal at best and more likely dodging the question.

This seems completely wrong. I've heard plenty of coaches dodge this question by saying things like "guys are getting something but it's not life-changing money." Caron said nothing like that. He literally said he's not aware of anyone on the team getting anything aside from some Bauer-like endorsements. He made clear that it's nothing like what guys might be getting in the Big 10. Setting aside the (nonsensical) possibility that someone who played on the team for two years is completely oblivious to how much anyone else on the team is making, this was the most unequivocal denial of NIL I've heard short of WMU coach Pat Ferschweiler saying on a different podcast that no one on last year's nationally championship roster earned any payment whatsoever.

My god. Yeah - BU has an NIL collective, with hockey alums on its board - but it just exists to play games of Canasta with other.

You're hopeless. But again - I only say this for the benefit of others here.

What Caron said is completely irrelevant. Whether he was fudging, or just doesn't know. Either way, it exists. $300k. And will be that going forward, with rev share, once they opt in. Factual information. Sorry no bank statements.

As for where they get the money - donors, like everything else. That's what NIL Collectives are.

The idea that BU wouldn't pay players while BC, other Hockey East teams, and every other large program nationally they compete with does -- defies all forms of logic. But -- ya know.

[BearLover]

$300K, or about $10K ($7K after taxes?) per player, diverted from other uses within the hockey program, is more evidence that even among the blue bloods, NIL plays a small role in college hockey. Makes me more hopeful for the future. LGR 

[adamw]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

[adamw]

$300K, or about $10K per player, diverted from other uses within the hockey program, is more evidence that even among the blue bloods, NIL plays a small role in college hockey. Makes me more hopeful for the future. LGR 

Ah - so now you've moved the goalposts. What else is new.

You can have your definition of whether the money is playing a small role or not. (And once again, NIL and rev share are two different things.) You call it small, others call it big. It's all perspective and relative.

But continuing to die on a hill that NIL/Rev Share/ etc... doesn't exist at this places -- is not just factually wrong, but madness.

[BearLover]

What do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.