We're gonna be in the news again

[upprdeck]

Harvard gonna play hardball over this stuff they are trying to pull.

[David Harding]

Ithaca Voice reports on Cornell announcement of some the research funding under the stop work order from the White House.

[George64]

Harvard gonna play hardball over this stuff they are trying to pull.

The first time I ever said "Go Harvard."  The hockey team still sucks, though!
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[George64]

Harvard gonna play hardball over this stuff they are trying to pull.

The first time I ever said "Go Harvard."  The hockey team still sucks, though!
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From Harvard's letter in response to the funding freeze: "The university will not surrender its independence or relinquish its constitutional rights. Neither Harvard nor any other private university can allow itself to be taken over by the federal government. Accordingly, Harvard will not accept the government's terms as an agreement in principle.

Harvard remains open to dialogue about what the university has done, and is planning to do, to improve the experience of every member of its community. But Harvard is not prepared to agree to demands that go beyond the lawful authority of this or any administration."
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[ugarte]

Harvard gonna play hardball over this stuff they are trying to pull.

so is cornell

[upprdeck]

I know its a big deal.. its a big deal because its part of the cost plan of doing and providing the research over the life of a grant

8 million isnt make or break in one year.. it adds up over time.

Lost in this is that the amount of indirect cost really does vary based on the type of research and the govt doesnt take that into account as well.

Maybe the schools fight back on how much time and effort is done in tracking the progress of the grants that the Govt requires then to lower the indirect cost.

Make the govt figure it all out.  Of course they cant since they laid 25% of them off now.

[HeafDog]

Harvard gonna play hardball over this stuff they are trying to pull.

so is cornell

Good. :-( I would rather we go flat broke, and our beloved alma mater turn into a ghost town, than buckle to these clowns.

[upprdeck]

the schools that are joining together to fight this have a ton of clout.

[BearLover]

Harvard gonna play hardball over this stuff they are trying to pull.

so is cornell

I think this lawsuit is on an issue distinct from the 1bn of frozen funding—it deals with a much smaller amount of incidental research costs that the government is trying to cut the funding for. The 1bn of frozen funding is way more of a threat to Cornell and they may be forced to capitulate to Trump's demands like Columbia did.

[Trotsky]

Endanger our students.  Fine.

Endanger our money.  Prepare to die.

[billhoward]

The first time I ever said "Go Harvard."  The hockey team still sucks, though!

I'm going to have this one bronzed.

This is sort of like reverse Nazis: First they came for the elite schools. But eventually they'll come for the lesser leaves of the Ivies.

You'd think with Anne Coulter '84 on our side, so to speak, we'd have some inherited immunity. And OMG the Dartmouth Review should make those people Untouchables.

[billhoward]

I know its a big deal.. its a big deal because its part of the cost plan of doing and providing the research over the life of a grant

8 million isnt make or break in one year.. it adds up over time.

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

[BearLover]

I know its a big deal.. its a big deal because its part of the cost plan of doing and providing the research over the life of a grant

8 million isnt make or break in one year.. it adds up over time.

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

The Trump administration froze over 1bn of research funding btw. The 8m, which Cornell is challenging, is separate from the 1bn.

[upprdeck]

except they didnt really freeze 8 billion

they froze grants that totalled some number.  

but many of those grants are for money that was already spent.

any nothing at cornell has really been frozen yet, its more of a threat at this point.

[BearLover]

except they didnt really freeze 8 billion

they froze grants that totalled some number.  

but many of those grants are for money that was already spent.

any nothing at cornell has really been frozen yet, its more of a threat at this point.

They froze 1bn, not 8bn. See this article:
https://ithacavoice.org/2025/04/cornell-further-details-federal-stop-work-orders-on-defense-cancer-research/

The funds are frozen for 90 days.