We're gonna be in the news again

Started by stereax, March 10, 2025, 09:04:56 PM

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stereax

Cornell hosted a Pathways to Peace event today.

Speakers included a former VPM of Israel.

You can guess the amount of pro-Palestinian "activists" who screamed viva Palestine and got thrown out.

I just got home from it. Was slated to ask a question but after the first students with questions all decided to spend their time telling the former VPM she was a war criminal... didn't happen.

Anyways, ask me questions, I'm probably gonna be quoted in the Sun tomorrow.

scoop85

Those imbeciles continue to play into the hands of Trump and his minions.

stereax

And now the university is forming a task force on "institutional voice". I assume this ties into the event last night and who gets invited to speak on campus going forward.

billhoward

Some other schools have said, "In light of recent events [including some that make us look bad], we will be a neutral / quiet platform for the voices to be heard in all their diversity." Read; What we thought was neutral, at least on a campus that is more liberal than America as a whole, is resulting in bad optics for us."

Recall that the Ivy presidents brought to testify before Congress, it appeared the answers formulated in pep sessions, prepared them to work in a court of law ... and it bit them on the butt in the court of public opinion.  

I am also intrigued but how a department that has skewed well left (maybe right) of center, makes it harder for neutral, MOR faculty applicants to be approved unless they align with the current orthodoxy.

billhoward

Pathways to Peace
... had an all-star cast of speakers, not just faculty or local activists
... Cornell says no audio or video recording devices allowed. I'm curious how Cornell dealt with the media who want to capture the event with images and maybe capture the speaker's words to make sure they're quoted accurately.

As of Tuesday, this was the most recent item in The Sun, a guest column. Not much wiggle room for Israel to discuss.

billhoward

As of Tuesday 3 pm, the day after the 3/10 event, the only reporting was text, no images, on FigerLakes1.com. It says 16 people were arrested or detained. Story:

https://www.fingerlakes1.com/2025/03/11/protesters-arrested-during-peaceful-walkout-at-cornell-university/

jtwcornell91

Quote from: stereaxCornell hosted a Pathways to Peace event today.

Speakers included a former VPM of Israel.

You can guess the amount of pro-Palestinian "activists" who screamed viva Palestine and got thrown out.

I just got home from it. Was slated to ask a question but after the first students with questions all decided to spend their time telling the former VPM she was a war criminal... didn't happen.

Anyways, ask me questions, I'm probably gonna be quoted in the Sun tomorrow.

I would also put "pro-Palestinian" in quotes there.  I looked up Livni and Fayyad, and they've both spent most of their political careers trying to make progress towards a two-state solution.

Weder

QuoteNEW: Cornell University says Students for Justice in Palestine "faces suspension" and several students and staff will be disciplined for disrupting a "Pathways to Peace" panel last night:

"Cornell University Police identified 17 people responsible for this unacceptable disruption. Nine students will be referred to the Office of Student Conduct and Community Standards for appropriate action, including the imposition of interim measures up to and including suspension. Staff members involved in the disruption will be referred for disciplinary actions through Human Resources. Outside disrupters will be issued persona non grata status, barring them from Cornell's campus."

"Additionally, for advertising and organizing this disruption, Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), a student-run organization, faces suspension as a registered campus organization."

https://x.com/sfmcguire79/status/1899552728256503890
3/8/96

stereax

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: stereaxCornell hosted a Pathways to Peace event today.

Speakers included a former VPM of Israel.

You can guess the amount of pro-Palestinian "activists" who screamed viva Palestine and got thrown out.

I just got home from it. Was slated to ask a question but after the first students with questions all decided to spend their time telling the former VPM she was a war criminal... didn't happen.

Anyways, ask me questions, I'm probably gonna be quoted in the Sun tomorrow.

I would also put "pro-Palestinian" in quotes there.  I looked up Livni and Fayyad, and they've both spent most of their political careers trying to make progress towards a two-state solution.
Oh no, Livni and Fayyad were great last night. I meant the students in that sentence, LOL.

stereax

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: stereaxCornell hosted a Pathways to Peace event today.

Speakers included a former VPM of Israel.

You can guess the amount of pro-Palestinian "activists" who screamed viva Palestine and got thrown out.

I just got home from it. Was slated to ask a question but after the first students with questions all decided to spend their time telling the former VPM she was a war criminal... didn't happen.

Anyways, ask me questions, I'm probably gonna be quoted in the Sun tomorrow.

I would also put "pro-Palestinian" in quotes there.  I looked up Livni and Fayyad, and they've both spent most of their political careers trying to make progress towards a two-state solution.
Oh no, Livni and Fayyad were great last night. I meant the students in that sentence, LOL. How much they support Palestinians versus how much they simply support Hamas is questionable.

As for no media - LMAO. Everyone was recording it, as Weber's Twitter link shows. I wasn't, mostly because I didn't want to have ANY issues, but the people in front of me were definitely recording the students getting thrown out; the no media rule wasn't actually policed, I don't think. I see myself on camera in both those recordings. Not causing a disturbance, of course.

The Sun just posted their take on it. I chatted with one of the reporters after the event, but I guess my story wasn't exciting enough to be formally included, haha!

stereax


George64

And here's Cornell's take on it.

You were there.  Is this a fair interpretation?  

"Some audience members were asked to leave or escorted out of the auditorium after shouting over some of the speakers, which Interim President Michael I. Kotlikoff had warned might happen in his introduction, saying that actions preventing a speaker's ability to be heard or the right of others to listen violate university policy."

Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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stereax

Quote from: George64And here's Cornell's take on it.

You were there.  Is this a fair interpretation?  

"Some audience members were asked to leave or escorted out of the auditorium after shouting over some of the speakers, which Interim President Michael I. Kotlikoff had warned might happen in his introduction, saying that actions preventing a speaker's ability to be heard or the right of others to listen violate university policy."

Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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That is fair, but a bit of an understatement. It feels like a lot more people were asked to leave/escorted out, or walked out silently, than "some". That also fails to note that people were being taken out every few minutes after interruptions, it felt like, and not in like, one go. (As in, we'd get a few minutes of speech, then someone going all "WAR CRIMINAL, FREE PALESTINE" and a few people taken out, then a few minutes of speech again, another protest, etcetera, etcetera.) There wasn't really much force used, definitely no brandishing of weapons or anything like that.

ugarte

begging for this thread to be locked before it gets ugly. if this sounds like i am asking you to tie me to the mast, i am.

George64

From the D&C: Eight NY colleges under federal antisemitism investigation

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2025/03/12/ny-colleges-under-federal-antisemitism-investigation-what-to-know/82287156007/

Sixty U.S. colleges and universities, including eight in New York, are under investigation for antisemitic discrimination and harassment, according to the U.S. Department of Education.

Letters were sent to the schools informing them of the investigation, the department's Office of Civil Rights announced in a news release Monday, and warned them of "potential enforcement actions if they do not fulfill obligations under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act to protect Jewish students on campus, including uninterrupted access to campus facilities and educational opportunities."
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