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marty

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
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Quote from: George64Go Harvard!

A sentiment only found in the JSID forum.

Japanese Society for Investigative Dermatology, Journal of Spatial Innovation Development, Journal of the Society for Information Display???

Duh, John Spencer is Dead!  Agreed, anywhere else and I'd be banned from eLynah.  BTW, who was the late John Spencer?
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John Spencer

Thanks?  If not for this link there would be no reason for me to waste a part of my life in search of Kim Carnes on "The Patty Duke Show".
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

scoop85

Quote from: George64NY Times: Columbia capitulates.  In PR-speak, they reached a negotiated settlement.  Go Harvard!

This sad episode underscores how reliant on government funding even the most well-endowed universities are to support their operations. The universities are not entirely blameless, as for too long they coddled those in academia who required complete obedience to a set of "norms" that were well outside the mainstream. But the Trumpians are acting in anything but good faith, as their longstanding agenda made no secret of their desire to upend the "elites" and they used the post October 7th chaos as a pretext to do just that.

upprdeck

Some of the stuff the Trump world is doing to the research universities is going to cost them a ton more in the long run.

George64

Quote from: George64NY Times: Columbia capitulates.  In PR-speak, they reached a negotiated settlement.  Go Harvard!

More in today's NY Times: Columbia and Penn Made Trump Deals. More Universities Could Be Next. David Bateman, Associate Professor of Government, liberally quoted.
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RichH

Quote from: George64
Quote from: George64NY Times: Columbia capitulates.  In PR-speak, they reached a negotiated settlement.  Go Harvard!

More in today's NY Times: Columbia and Penn Made Trump Deals. More Universities Could Be Next. David Bateman, Associate Professor of Government, liberally quoted.
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I'm a complete idiot when it comes to these things, but I am a taxpayer. Where is all this shakedown money (including Paramount et al. bribes) going? "The government" or "The White House" is more vague than charges of "on campus antisemitism."  Is there a bribery account of the presidential library fund that includes more than airplanes?

And I guess it's up to each institution as to where the extortion cash comes from. Endowment? Campus beautification allowance? Columbia hockey & lacrosse program budgets?

Alumni donations will be rethought.

The Rancor

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: George64
Quote from: TimV
Quote from: George64Go Harvard!

A sentiment only found in the JSID forum.

Japanese Society for Investigative Dermatology, Journal of Spatial Innovation Development, Journal of the Society for Information Display???

Duh, John Spencer is Dead!  Agreed, anywhere else and I'd be banned from eLynah.  BTW, who was the late John Spencer?
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John Spencer

I always imagined it to be he of Blues Explosion fame.

Trotsky

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: George64
Quote from: George64NY Times: Columbia capitulates.  In PR-speak, they reached a negotiated settlement.  Go Harvard!

More in today's NY Times: Columbia and Penn Made Trump Deals. More Universities Could Be Next. David Bateman, Associate Professor of Government, liberally quoted.
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I'm a complete idiot when it comes to these things, but I am a taxpayer. Where is all this shakedown money (including Paramount et al. bribes) going? "The government" or "The White House" is more vague than charges of "on campus antisemitism."  Is there a bribery account of the presidential library fund that includes more than airplanes?

And I guess it's up to each institution as to where the extortion cash comes from. Endowment? Campus beautification allowance? Columbia hockey & lacrosse program budgets?

Alumni donations will be rethought.


Honorarium from the student fund.

Chris '03

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: George64
Quote from: George64NY Times: Columbia capitulates.  In PR-speak, they reached a negotiated settlement.  Go Harvard!

More in today's NY Times: Columbia and Penn Made Trump Deals. More Universities Could Be Next. David Bateman, Associate Professor of Government, liberally quoted.
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I'm a complete idiot when it comes to these things, but I am a taxpayer. Where is all this shakedown money (including Paramount et al. bribes) going? "The government" or "The White House" is more vague than charges of "on campus antisemitism."  Is there a bribery account of the presidential library fund that includes more than airplanes?

And I guess it's up to each institution as to where the extortion cash comes from. Endowment? Campus beautification allowance? Columbia hockey & lacrosse program budgets?

Alumni donations will be rethought.


Sun suggests CU close to a Columbia style deal.
https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/07/cornell-reportedly-in-talks-with-trump-administration-to-reach-payment-deal-to-restore-federal-funding?fbclid=PAQ0xDSwLyJOJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABp6pbuqjCgrY2arjnrbau891ZxiCG2JICJiq1XscQsYMLMON_IP-b1gZR6V62_aem_Sr7NC7v9r1j6yoqozN2Wxg
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

CU2007

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: George64
Quote from: George64NY Times: Columbia capitulates.  In PR-speak, they reached a negotiated settlement.  Go Harvard!

More in today's NY Times: Columbia and Penn Made Trump Deals. More Universities Could Be Next. David Bateman, Associate Professor of Government, liberally quoted.
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I'm a complete idiot when it comes to these things, but I am a taxpayer. Where is all this shakedown money (including Paramount et al. bribes) going? "The government" or "The White House" is more vague than charges of "on campus antisemitism."  Is there a bribery account of the presidential library fund that includes more than airplanes?

And I guess it's up to each institution as to where the extortion cash comes from. Endowment? Campus beautification allowance? Columbia hockey & lacrosse program budgets?

Alumni donations will be rethought.


Sun suggests CU close to a Columbia style deal.
https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/07/cornell-reportedly-in-talks-with-trump-administration-to-reach-payment-deal-to-restore-federal-funding?fbclid=PAQ0xDSwLyJOJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABp6pbuqjCgrY2arjnrbau891ZxiCG2JICJiq1XscQsYMLMON_IP-b1gZR6V62_aem_Sr7NC7v9r1j6yoqozN2Wxg

What a shame. Bending the knee and handing over money to a bully. Can't believe the courts are allowing these shake downs.

upprdeck

pretty much the opp. of what people were told just this week on campus of what is going on.

Trotsky

Well I for one am shocked, shocked that an entity run to generationally perpetuate the dominance of the wealthy has no problems sacrificing every core democratic and human value to suck up to fascists.

I mean, who would have ever guessed that would be the result of universities aligning with big business?

chimpfood

I mean the fact is that Cornell doesn't have enough money to keep running properly if they don't get some funding back. Cornell is doing what is best for its students and that is totally logical because those are the people that pay to attend. Would it be nice to be in a financial spot where we wouldn't have to grovel for our money back? Sure. But would it make enough of a difference to the national political landscape if we decided to stand up for ourselves and not ask for funding back? I would say no, at least not enough of a difference to put the future of the university at risk. The only people really at fault here are the trump administration.

BearLover

Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: George64
Quote from: George64NY Times: Columbia capitulates.  In PR-speak, they reached a negotiated settlement.  Go Harvard!

More in today's NY Times: Columbia and Penn Made Trump Deals. More Universities Could Be Next. David Bateman, Associate Professor of Government, liberally quoted.
.

I'm a complete idiot when it comes to these things, but I am a taxpayer. Where is all this shakedown money (including Paramount et al. bribes) going? "The government" or "The White House" is more vague than charges of "on campus antisemitism."  Is there a bribery account of the presidential library fund that includes more than airplanes?

And I guess it's up to each institution as to where the extortion cash comes from. Endowment? Campus beautification allowance? Columbia hockey & lacrosse program budgets?

Alumni donations will be rethought.


Sun suggests CU close to a Columbia style deal.
https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/07/cornell-reportedly-in-talks-with-trump-administration-to-reach-payment-deal-to-restore-federal-funding?fbclid=PAQ0xDSwLyJOJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABp6pbuqjCgrY2arjnrbau891ZxiCG2JICJiq1XscQsYMLMON_IP-b1gZR6V62_aem_Sr7NC7v9r1j6yoqozN2Wxg

What a shame. Bending the knee and handing over money to a bully. Can't believe the courts are allowing these shake downs.
The shakedowns are an absolute joke but it's not the fault of the colleges for acquiescing. They have no choice. The government holds all the cards. The same Trump administration chose who sits on the courts so there will be no relief there.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyWell I for one am shocked, shocked that an entity run to generationally perpetuate the dominance of the wealthy has no problems sacrificing every core democratic and human value to suck up to fascists.

I mean, who would have ever guessed that would be the result of universities aligning with big business?
I know you have to satisfy your quota of rants against the system, but you clearly don't understand the power dynamic here. Colleges have no choice. Research universities are reliant on government funding.  Harvard, which is far richer and far more powerful than Cornell, tried resisting, realized they couldn't win, and now they are in a far worse position than if they had acquiesced from the start.

The Rancor

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: TrotskyWell I for one am shocked, shocked that an entity run to generationally perpetuate the dominance of the wealthy has no problems sacrificing every core democratic and human value to suck up to fascists.

I mean, who would have ever guessed that would be the result of universities aligning with big business?
I know you have to satisfy your quota of rants against the system, but you clearly don't understand the power dynamic here. Colleges have no choice. Research universities are reliant on government funding.  Harvard, which is far richer and far more powerful than Cornell, tried resisting, realized they couldn't win, and now they are in a far worse position than if they had acquiesced from the start.

I'm with Trotsky. They have a 10 plus billion dollar endowment, plus plus. Combined with other Ivy's and wealthy universities, they should tell Uncle Sam and Big Orange to get stuffed. Fucking cowards.