Recruits -- Progress Report

[stereax]

stereax: see Chris Heisenberg's list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1USsyO-hgQhC4JD5HGGUDkgm_1qUeEWbhB-EyceEwTSI/htmlview#

Since you are apparently not familiar with this, let me add that Chris's grandfather was Werner.

Also note that Cornell had a commitment yesterday.

Not familiar at all. Researching now. Wow! Thanks for the info <3

[Trotsky]

where do you find the list of commits? I need to keep tabs on our Little Red

http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2025/2025_Future_Players.html

[ursusminor]

where do you find the list of commits? I need to keep tabs on our Little Red

http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2025/2025_Future_Players.html

missing: https://www.pentictonvees.ca/forward-louie-wehmann-commits-to-cornell

[ithacat]

where do you find the list of commits? I need to keep tabs on our Little Red

https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/5692/ithaca-high

[BearLover]

Since CHL players were deemed eligible for the NCAAs, Quinnipiac and Clarkson have each had four '04 or '05 birth year commitments from the CHL (i.e. players who are aging out of major juniors). Really hope Cornell can compete for this type of recruit or else we are going to be at a big disadvantage.

[stereax]

Since CHL players were deemed eligible for the NCAAs, Quinnipiac and Clarkson have each had four '04 or '05 birth year commitments from the CHL (i.e. players who are aging out of major juniors). Really hope Cornell can compete for this type of recruit or else we are going to be at a big disadvantage.

Going to assume that the academic standards aren't going to help us in this respect. I see it looks like Princeton recruited some '04s from the OHL, so it doesn't seem like there's a blanket ban against it in the Ivies.

[scoop85]

Since CHL players were deemed eligible for the NCAAs, Quinnipiac and Clarkson have each had four '04 or '05 birth year commitments from the CHL (i.e. players who are aging out of major juniors). Really hope Cornell can compete for this type of recruit or else we are going to be at a big disadvantage.

I'd be surprised if we aren't competitive in the CHL market with the same caliber of players we have traditionally recruited from the USHL and BCHL, etc. It will take some time to sort all this out.

[upprdeck]

It will still come down to grades.  Much easier to get kids into Harvard/Princeton than Cornell

[BearLover]

It will still come down to grades.  Much easier to get kids into Harvard/Princeton than Cornell

What?

[upprdeck]

It will still come down to grades.  Much easier to get kids into Harvard/Princeton than Cornell

What?

what is the question.  You dont know that its true.

[BearLover]

It will still come down to grades.  Much easier to get kids into Harvard/Princeton than Cornell

What?

what is the question.  You dont know that it's true.

The question is: "why is it much easier to get athletes into Harvard/Princeton than Cornell, and what have you seen that supports this notion"? Cornell is a much larger school that is easier for non-athletes to get into than H/P. Why would it be the opposite for athletes?

[upprdeck]

because you don't understand how admissions work for athletes I guess. Dont assume they all get in under the same rules as the general population.

[ugarte]

because you don't understand how admissions work for athletes I guess. Dont assume they all get in under the same rules as the general population.

i thought the ivy index was scaled by school to the admissions for genpop

[BearLover]

because you don't understand how admissions work for athletes I guess. Dont assume they all get in under the same rules as the general population.

I'm asking you the question lol, I'm not saying I know anything. I've never heard this view and it conflicts with general characteristics of the schools in question so that's why I'm asking.

[Snowball]

My information is from a friend who was the swim coach at a rival Ivy. Having said that it's a few years old - it's possible things have changed. But here goes: The Ivy League still utilized something equivalent to an academic index or AI,  to judge student athlete potential. The AI is a combo of gpa and test scores, with test scores weighted more heavily. There is a minimum AI for each student athlete, though  each school has one "wild card" if you will, basically no academic standards for 1 admit, say like the the quarterback of the football team.

 Additionally, each athletic team's AI must be within one standard deviation of the average AI for the student body. Hence the utility of the "gpa benchwarmer" a role my brother-in-law sarcastically says he fulfilled on the soccer team at his Ivy.

 Not sure if student body AI is determined within a college or for the whole undergraduate populations, but I suspect it's by college. So those are the 2 academic constraints for a teaming doing recruiting.

There is not a huge difference in grades and test scores between Cornell and the top Ivies: HYP. So I kinda doubt it would make much difference in recruiting. However it doesn't make sense to me that HYP would be easier.  My thought is that HYP would have an advantage in the amount of financial aid they offer - more than Cornell, as I don't believe  Cornell can up financial aid on an individual basis to make admission more attractive to a student-athlete.