Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

[Scersk '97]

Many on this board also have grown tired of knee-jerk defenses of the team and coaching staff during what has been the most disappointing season in the history of Cornell hockey. It seems like anytime someone criticizes something about the team, a squad of Russian bots is dispatched into the forum to say positive things about the team and attack the poster doing to criticizing. It's childish behavior to repeatedly respond with personal attacks to me expressing a viewpoint.

Dude, 1992-93, 6-19-1.  You need to get a grip.

Stop responding to slights and provide some reasoned analysis or go outside for a walk.

Given our history since Schafer took over, it's really, really easy to think the floor is about .500 and we are only a few games above that. As opposed to thinking tha the floor is all the way down at "suck."

Well, then there's 2014-15, a truly disappointing season. We had really good goalies and that team just fell apart from lack of leadership.

A drop through the .500 floor is always possible. And it can last. Happened to Harvard; happened to Clarkson.

I imagine a few posters will fade into nothingness if that happens. I won't, because I remember.

[upprdeck]

cuse had about 50 yrs of solid bball.. then a bit of struggle and gave up on the coach and look hows its going now.

people think its easy to stay on top and forget

Neb fball too a dump
kent bball had a hard fall

it can happen to the blue bloods in any sport at any time

miami bball went from final 4 type team to awful in about 2 yrs.

[ugarte]

what kind of defenses are these? a season when my old ass was on campus *30* years ago? the fact that the bottom can fall out on a top program means that we shouldn't criticize until it's completely in shambles? i don't get it. i don't even think that criticism of this team is an indication that there's a more extreme general worry, even if BL often sounds skeptical of Jones.

this was a pretty cool weekend in a frustrating year. please stop freaking out at a guy who DOES post his reasons for concern even if you think they're overstated or flat wrong. looks revealingly defensive imo.

[Dafatone]

what kind of defenses are these? a season when my old ass was on campus *30* years ago? the fact that the bottom can fall out on a top program means that we shouldn't criticize until it's completely in shambles? i don't get it. i don't even think that criticism of this team is an indication that there's a more extreme general worry, even if BL often sounds skeptical of Jones.

this was a pretty cool weekend in a frustrating year. please stop freaking out at a guy who DOES post his reasons for concern even if you think they're overstated or flat wrong. looks revealingly defensive imo.

Criticism is fine. I'm not even really in the "let's all hate on BL" camp so much as the "the math isn't as dire as BL thinks and the difference between what we are and what we want to be is a few puck bounces and a few Shane saves" camp.

What's tricky to me has been the timing. We took two from NoDak, way to go us. From there, the results have been fairly meh. Certainly, somewhere between 2-0-0 and 7-5-5 it makes sense to go "gee, weren't we supposed to be better than this?"

But it felt like that started pretty much from the jump from tying Yale and losing at Dartmouth. So then, it was "dude we just took two from NoDak, bad games happen, the season just started." Turns out the team didn't turn it around in the first half. But by the time we had enough poor results to really be disappointing, there was a little bit of a boy who cried wolf effect to complaining about the results.

In sum, let's run the table.

[Iceberg]

Speaking of opponents, I wonder what the OOC schedule will look like next season. I don't think there are any make-up trips either away or at home for OOC opponents. It would be nice to see some HEA teams on the schedule for a change other than UMass and BU (whom I imagine will be an opponent next year at MSG).

[arugula]

We've played Merrimack in the not so distant past and they would seem to be a reasonably strong OOC opponent   On top of BU at msg.

[Trotsky]

Having progressed from criticizing the team to criticizing those who criticize the team to criticizing those who criticize those who criticize the team, I believe we have now established the infinite series.

[BearLover]

Many on this board also have grown tired of knee-jerk defenses of the team and coaching staff during what has been the most disappointing season in the history of Cornell hockey. It seems like anytime someone criticizes something about the team, a squad of Russian bots is dispatched into the forum to say positive things about the team and attack the poster doing to criticizing. It's childish behavior to repeatedly respond with personal attacks to me expressing a viewpoint.

Dude, 1992-93, 6-19-1.  You need to get a grip.

Stop responding to slights and provide some reasoned analysis or go outside for a walk.

I said most disappointing season. Not worst season.

Also, really, you had to go back 32 seasons to find one that was (arguably) more disappointing?

I'm dishing out beautifully reasoned analysis in every post. Sit back and enjoy. Also, it's too cold to go outside for a walk.

[The Rancor]

Many on this board also have grown tired of knee-jerk defenses of the team and coaching staff during what has been the most disappointing season in the history of Cornell hockey. It seems like anytime someone criticizes something about the team, a squad of Russian bots is dispatched into the forum to say positive things about the team and attack the poster doing to criticizing. It's childish behavior to repeatedly respond with personal attacks to me expressing a viewpoint.

Dude, 1992-93, 6-19-1.  You need to get a grip.

Stop responding to slights and provide some reasoned analysis or go outside for a walk.

Given our history since Schafer took over, it's really, really easy to think the floor is about .500 and we are only a few games above that. As opposed to thinking tha the floor is all the way down at "suck."

oof. I had forgotten that season- although there was a really fun OOC slate that year, looking back.


Well, then there's 2014-15, a truly disappointing season. We had really good goalies and that team just fell apart from lack of leadership.

A drop through the .500 floor is always possible. And it can last. Happened to Harvard; happened to Clarkson.

I imagine a few posters will fade into nothingness if that happens. I won't, because I remember.

[Scersk '97]

Many on this board also have grown tired
Also, really, you had to go back 32 seasons to find one that was (arguably) more disappointing?

That's the point.

In the end, I don't think this season will turn out as disappointing. My experiences have taught me to feel that way. I'm not uncritical. I just... have perspective.

Do I find things frustrating? Oh my, yes. But I enjoy what I can. Little victories that hopefully lead to bigger victories.

Watching Jimmy Rayhill finally play is glorious. I can only imagine what that must feel like. Watching Michael Suda put another shootout away was something. I liked the smile I saw on Flanagan's face when Castagna finally potted one at Princeton, like, "Finally that kid is shooting again."

We'll get there. No point in mourning what you could have had while you still have something. Plenty of time for that when the snow is gone and it's too warm again.

[adamw]

I realize he'll never listen or get it, but for the sake of others... Criticism is not the issue. It's wildly unfounded criticism in certain areas, combined with seemingly "reasonably analysis" that is actually cherry picked data or tortured logic... Combined with way too much confidence in his uninformed opinions... And unwillingness to ever acknowledge being wrong or premature... Combined with constant inane demands for others to show their own "reasoned analysis" when that's been done, minus the word soup.

[BearLover]

I realize he'll never listen or get it, but for the sake of others... Criticism is not the issue. It's wildly unfounded criticism in certain areas, combined with seemingly "reasonably analysis" that is actually cherry picked data or tortured logic... Combined with way too much confidence in his uninformed opinions... And unwillingness to ever acknowledge being wrong or premature... Combined with constant inane demands for others to show their own "reasoned analysis" when that's been done, minus the word soup.

Nah. I wrote something as innocuous as "this suggests to me coaching has something to do with [the team not playing well]" and you called me a moron for even suggesting it. You gave no alternative viewpoint on the team's struggles. Eventually, Tom Lento wrote a long and nuanced take which you claimed as your own, even though his take included a criticism of the coaching (lol).

This is no longer worth arguing about. I'm going to continue to give my thoughts, hopefully at a more reasonable pace and tone, and you can decide for yourself if they rise to the level of you needing to call me stupid for expressing them.

[marty]

I realize he'll never listen or get it, but for the sake of others... Criticism is not the issue. It's wildly unfounded criticism in certain areas, combined with seemingly "reasonably analysis" that is actually cherry picked data or tortured logic... Combined with way too much confidence in his uninformed opinions... And unwillingness to ever acknowledge being wrong or premature... Combined with constant inane demands for others to show their own "reasoned analysis" when that's been done, minus the word soup.

Nah. I wrote something as innocuous as "this suggests to me coaching has something to do with [the team not playing well]" and you called me a moron for even suggesting it. You gave no alternative viewpoint on the team's struggles. Eventually, Tom Lento wrote a long and nuanced take which you claimed as your own, even though his take included a criticism of the coaching (lol).

This is no longer worth arguing about. I'm going to continue to give my thoughts, hopefully at a more reasonable pace and tone, and you can decide for yourself if they rise to the level of you needing to call me stupid for expressing them.

I don't remember Adam ever calling you a MORON or using the S Word against you - nor have your other many detractors.  But I look forward to you spending the next day or two searching eLynah so that you can prove me wrong.

Your answer may be in the form of an essay or an Excel document whichever is more time intensive.

[adamw]

I realize he'll never listen or get it, but for the sake of others... Criticism is not the issue. It's wildly unfounded criticism in certain areas, combined with seemingly "reasonably analysis" that is actually cherry picked data or tortured logic... Combined with way too much confidence in his uninformed opinions... And unwillingness to ever acknowledge being wrong or premature... Combined with constant inane demands for others to show their own "reasoned analysis" when that's been done, minus the word soup.

Nah. I wrote something as innocuous as "this suggests to me coaching has something to do with [the team not playing well]" and you called me a moron for even suggesting it. You gave no alternative viewpoint on the team's struggles. Eventually, Tom Lento wrote a long and nuanced take which you claimed as your own, even though his take included a criticism of the coaching (lol).

This is no longer worth arguing about. I'm going to continue to give my thoughts, hopefully at a more reasonable pace and tone, and you can decide for yourself if they rise to the level of you needing to call me stupid for expressing them.

Your reply here only proves every point I made in my post. Every single one. Good job. It's like performance art.

[BearLover]

I realize he'll never listen or get it, but for the sake of others... Criticism is not the issue. It's wildly unfounded criticism in certain areas, combined with seemingly "reasonably analysis" that is actually cherry picked data or tortured logic... Combined with way too much confidence in his uninformed opinions... And unwillingness to ever acknowledge being wrong or premature... Combined with constant inane demands for others to show their own "reasoned analysis" when that's been done, minus the word soup.

Nah. I wrote something as innocuous as "this suggests to me coaching has something to do with [the team not playing well]" and you called me a moron for even suggesting it. You gave no alternative viewpoint on the team's struggles. Eventually, Tom Lento wrote a long and nuanced take which you claimed as your own, even though his take included a criticism of the coaching (lol).

This is no longer worth arguing about. I'm going to continue to give my thoughts, hopefully at a more reasonable pace and tone, and you can decide for yourself if they rise to the level of you needing to call me stupid for expressing them.

Your reply here only proves every point I made in my post. Every single one. Good job. It's like performance art.

Yawn