Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

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David Harding

Quote from: Swampy
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Quote from: CU2007
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Quote from: sah67From the "things you don't see every day" department...BU's freshman goalie hit the ice for warm-ups 1 minute earlier than he was supposed to (before BC entered), leading to BU being assessed a bench minor delay-of-game penalty, and BC starting the game on the powerplay, during which they scored what ended up being the GWG (24 seconds into the game):

https://x.com/BOShockeyblog/status/1883295658821718220
Yegorov!!! Beloved. Devils prospect. Apparently the BC staff opened the door to the ice early and Yegorov (who's only played in the USHL to this point) took it as an invitation. Pando (BU coach) was SPITTING mad about it (apparently, if something like that happens, custom is to decline the penalty because it's not really BU's fault). Wasn't a rookie lap at all, VIEWfromK.

Decline the penalty? Never seen that and don't even think you can do that.
Supposedly if it's a penalty of that sort it's possible to decline it? I'm not sure. I'm just going off what my friend said, haha. Supposedly it's enforced at refs' discretion, too.

Can't the opposing coach just put out 4 skaters for a de facto decline?

I've just spent an inordinate fraction of my evening search the rule book for any relevant passages.  There is nothing with any form of the word "decline" except that if a team declines to play an overtime period they lose the game.  There is this in Section 4 of the Interpretations, emphasis mine.  
QuoteA.R. 2: Can referees assess penalties during the pregame warm-up? RULING:
Yes. Referees must penalize any infractions they observe during the warm-up in
the same manner as if play is actually in progress. Penalties assessed during the
warm-up will begin at the opening faceoff.
And this in Section 10, Rule 82 on Timing
QuoteA.R. 4: Is it permissible for the home team to alter the protocol in situations in
which there is a common entrance to the ice surface for both teams? RULING:
Yes. Game management officials should avoid having teams cross when entering
or exiting the ice surface. Conferences and institutions are encouraged to
establish a written policy for visiting teams.
A.R. 5: May the visiting team take the ice before the home team for warmups?
RULING: Yes. While the visiting team may not take the ice before the time
designated in the pregame time schedule, it may take the ice before the home
team if the home team is not prepared to take the ice at its appointed time. The
home team must be assessed a bench minor penalty in this situation.
And for those interested in the Pregame Protocol:
Quote82.2 Pregame Protocol - The following pregame time schedule shall be used at
all games:
Put 60 minutes on the clock and start exactly one hour before game.
43:00— Home team personnel notifies teams and officials that five
minutes remain before teams are to take the ice for warm-up.
39:00—Officials take ice for warm-up.
38:00—Home team takes ice for warm-up.
37:50—Visiting team takes ice for warm-up.
24:00— Horn sounds, signaling one minute remaining in warm-up; team
captains meet with officials.
Note: Meeting with captains may be held before the start of this time schedule.
23:00—Both teams off ice; ice will be resurfaced.
15:00— Eligible players and starting lineups submitted to official scorer.
The home team notifies the visiting team as to the length of
intermissions.
10:00— Home team personnel notifies teams and officials that three
minutes remain before teams are to take the ice.
8:00—Officials take ice.
7:00—Home team takes ice.
6:50—Visiting team takes ice.
6:00— Horn sounds signaling teams to assemble on their respective goal
lines.
5:00— Starting lineups announced; national anthem, crowd control
statement read. Officials check each starting goalkeepers' throat
straps.
0:00—Timekeeper puts 20 minutes on clock; game starts.
Note: Players are prohibited from being on the ice surface before the protocol
begins. Violations of this rule shall be reported to the team's conference for
further action.

stereax

Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67From the "things you don't see every day" department...BU's freshman goalie hit the ice for warm-ups 1 minute earlier than he was supposed to (before BC entered), leading to BU being assessed a bench minor delay-of-game penalty, and BC starting the game on the powerplay, during which they scored what ended up being the GWG (24 seconds into the game):

https://x.com/BOShockeyblog/status/1883295658821718220
Yegorov!!! Beloved. Devils prospect. Apparently the BC staff opened the door to the ice early and Yegorov (who's only played in the USHL to this point) took it as an invitation. Pando (BU coach) was SPITTING mad about it (apparently, if something like that happens, custom is to decline the penalty because it's not really BU's fault). Wasn't a rookie lap at all, VIEWfromK.

Decline the penalty? Never seen that and don't even think you can do that.
Supposedly if it's a penalty of that sort it's possible to decline it? I'm not sure. I'm just going off what my friend said, haha. Supposedly it's enforced at refs' discretion, too.

Can't the opposing coach just put out 4 skaters for a de facto decline?

I've just spent an inordinate fraction of my evening search the rule book for any relevant passages.  There is nothing with any form of the word "decline" except that if a team declines to play an overtime period they lose the game.  There is this in Section 4 of the Interpretations, emphasis mine.  
QuoteA.R. 2: Can referees assess penalties during the pregame warm-up? RULING:
Yes. Referees must penalize any infractions they observe during the warm-up in
the same manner as if play is actually in progress. Penalties assessed during the
warm-up will begin at the opening faceoff.
And this in Section 10, Rule 82 on Timing
QuoteA.R. 4: Is it permissible for the home team to alter the protocol in situations in
which there is a common entrance to the ice surface for both teams? RULING:
Yes. Game management officials should avoid having teams cross when entering
or exiting the ice surface. Conferences and institutions are encouraged to
establish a written policy for visiting teams.
A.R. 5: May the visiting team take the ice before the home team for warmups?
RULING: Yes. While the visiting team may not take the ice before the time
designated in the pregame time schedule, it may take the ice before the home
team if the home team is not prepared to take the ice at its appointed time. The
home team must be assessed a bench minor penalty in this situation.
And for those interested in the Pregame Protocol:
Quote82.2 Pregame Protocol - The following pregame time schedule shall be used at
all games:
Put 60 minutes on the clock and start exactly one hour before game.
43:00— Home team personnel notifies teams and officials that five
minutes remain before teams are to take the ice for warm-up.
39:00—Officials take ice for warm-up.
38:00—Home team takes ice for warm-up.
37:50—Visiting team takes ice for warm-up.
24:00— Horn sounds, signaling one minute remaining in warm-up; team
captains meet with officials.
Note: Meeting with captains may be held before the start of this time schedule.
23:00—Both teams off ice; ice will be resurfaced.
15:00— Eligible players and starting lineups submitted to official scorer.
The home team notifies the visiting team as to the length of
intermissions.
10:00— Home team personnel notifies teams and officials that three
minutes remain before teams are to take the ice.
8:00—Officials take ice.
7:00—Home team takes ice.
6:50—Visiting team takes ice.
6:00— Horn sounds signaling teams to assemble on their respective goal
lines.
5:00— Starting lineups announced; national anthem, crowd control
statement read. Officials check each starting goalkeepers' throat
straps.
0:00—Timekeeper puts 20 minutes on clock; game starts.
Note: Players are prohibited from being on the ice surface before the protocol
begins. Violations of this rule shall be reported to the team's conference for
further action.
Hmmmm! Good to know. From what I heard, it sounded like there was some possibility to decline or not penalize or whatever may have it (especially if the opposing team's staff is at least partially at fault), but I must've been mistaken. Thanks for all this info, David!
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

stereax

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: sah67From the "things you don't see every day" department...BU's freshman goalie hit the ice for warm-ups 1 minute earlier than he was supposed to (before BC entered), leading to BU being assessed a bench minor delay-of-game penalty, and BC starting the game on the powerplay, during which they scored what ended up being the GWG (24 seconds into the game):

https://x.com/BOShockeyblog/status/1883295658821718220
Yegorov!!! Beloved. Devils prospect. Apparently the BC staff opened the door to the ice early and Yegorov (who's only played in the USHL to this point) took it as an invitation. Pando (BU coach) was SPITTING mad about it (apparently, if something like that happens, custom is to decline the penalty because it's not really BU's fault). Wasn't a rookie lap at all, VIEWfromK.

Decline the penalty? Never seen that and don't even think you can do that.
Supposedly if it's a penalty of that sort it's possible to decline it? I'm not sure. I'm just going off what my friend said, haha. Supposedly it's enforced at refs' discretion, too.

Can't the opposing coach just put out 4 skaters for a de facto decline?
Possibly, that could be the case, yeah.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

chimpfood

The beanpot is always a fun watch on slow Monday nights. Today we have the pleasure of watching Harvard get dismantled by BU without worrying about the pairwise implications for us.

stereax

Quote from: chimpfoodThe beanpot is always a fun watch on slow Monday nights. Today we have the pleasure of watching Harvard get dismantled by BU without worrying about the pairwise implications for us.
Wheeeeeee! I'm throwing my fish at the screen <3
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

The Rancor

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: chimpfoodThe beanpot is always a fun watch on slow Monday nights. Today we have the pleasure of watching Harvard get dismantled by BU without worrying about the pairwise implications for us.
Wheeeeeee! I'm throwing my fish at the screen <3

HA!

dbilmes

Harvard, which always sucks at Beanpot, is sucking even worse than usual tonight. After taking a 1-0 lead, Harvard trails 6-1 heading into third period. BU scored five goals in second period. It's hard to believe BU lost to Yale back in December.
BU has 27 power play goals this season and one of their players has 8, which is more than Cornell has scored all season as a team.

chimpfood

It's silly watching Cole Hutson out there, he is so good in the O zone.

stereax

Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: chimpfoodThe beanpot is always a fun watch on slow Monday nights. Today we have the pleasure of watching Harvard get dismantled by BU without worrying about the pairwise implications for us.
Wheeeeeee! I'm throwing my fish at the screen <3

HA!
:)
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

stereax

Quote from: chimpfoodIt's silly watching Cole Hutson out there, he is so good in the O zone.
He's gonna tear it up in the NHL. Imagine that he didn't even go in the 1st round.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

sah67

Quote from: chimpfoodIt's silly watching Cole Hutson out there, he is so good in the O zone.

Wasn't watching, but it sounds like BU had their top powerplay unit out there with just a few minutes to go when they were already up 6-1. Did Donato do something to piss them off?

chimpfood

There was a minor scrum late in the game after a whistle but it must've pissed pandalfo off because he challenge while up 6-1 with 5 mins to go and was clearly trying to run up the score

Beeeej

Quote from: sah67
Quote from: chimpfoodIt's silly watching Cole Hutson out there, he is so good in the O zone.

Wasn't watching, but it sounds like BU had their top powerplay unit out there with just a few minutes to go when they were already up 6-1. Did Donato do something to piss them off?

Took the ice early for warmups? ::bolt::
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

BearLover

It's honestly shocking how bad Harvard is. No other college program with this many draft picks is anywhere close to as bad. I'd be furious if I were a Harvard fan.

upprdeck