Cornell @ Clarkson, 2/23

Started by Trotsky, February 23, 2024, 05:47:17 PM

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Dafatone

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting! when we tie (much less gag away a W, much less lose in OT) against a bad team it HURTS us. Badly. We are down to 15 in the Pairwise. it's ok to be mad about it. they've changed the way teams qualify for the postseason, so the ECAC standings just don't matter as much especially when we can't even win the regular season conference title.

It's definitely fine to be mad about blowing a lead at the last second in a game we really could've used.

I don't understand the woe is me attitude that's taken over lately. We're having a really, really, really good year. We currently have the 5th best record in all of D1. An RPI of .5536 would get us in just about every year.

Except this one, so far. Which is a bummer, along with tonight's result. But we are having a great year, regardless of how RPI shakes out.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting!

Just say "woke," it's fewer keystrokes.

ugarte

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting! when we tie (much less gag away a W, much less lose in OT) against a bad team it HURTS us. Badly. We are down to 15 in the Pairwise. it's ok to be mad about it. they've changed the way teams qualify for the postseason, so the ECAC standings just don't matter as much especially when we can't even win the regular season conference title.

It's definitely fine to be mad about blowing a lead at the last second in a game we really could've used.

I don't understand the woe is me attitude that's taken over lately. We're having a really, really, really good year. We currently have the 5th best record in all of D1. An RPI of .5536 would get us in just about every year.

Except this one, so far. Which is a bummer, along with tonight's result. But we are having a great year, regardless of how RPI shakes out.
this is the kind of thing i contemplate on the nights that we win or maybe on a wednesday. in the immediate aftermath of a big ol' honk job i'm mad.

Dafatone

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ERlol 1 loss in 15 games. What a charmed life we lead.
enough with the pollyanna posting! when we tie (much less gag away a W, much less lose in OT) against a bad team it HURTS us. Badly. We are down to 15 in the Pairwise. it's ok to be mad about it. they've changed the way teams qualify for the postseason, so the ECAC standings just don't matter as much especially when we can't even win the regular season conference title.

It's definitely fine to be mad about blowing a lead at the last second in a game we really could've used.

I don't understand the woe is me attitude that's taken over lately. We're having a really, really, really good year. We currently have the 5th best record in all of D1. An RPI of .5536 would get us in just about every year.

Except this one, so far. Which is a bummer, along with tonight's result. But we are having a great year, regardless of how RPI shakes out.
this is the kind of thing i contemplate on the nights that we win or maybe on a wednesday. in the immediate aftermath of a big ol' honk job i'm mad.

That's fair. Mad away.

cuhockey93

Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that. The team doesn't go into the season with win% targets. Certainly the players won't call that a good season.

upprdeck

Did we really expect that this team was going to go 3 months without really losing a game?

losing on the Rd in OT was somewhat of a help. Win the next 5 with 4 of them at home and see where we are then.

Dafatone

Quote from: cuhockey93Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that. The team doesn't go into the season with win% targets. Certainly the players won't call that a good season.

My three goals every year are get a first round bye, make it to Lake Placid (or wherever the tournament is), and make the NCAAs.

If we have a great year by RPI standards and wind up just outside the bubble because this season is a weird aberration, I won't be happy, but it'll be hard for me to fault the team's performance.

BearLover

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: cuhockey93Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that. The team doesn't go into the season with win% targets. Certainly the players won't call that a good season.

My three goals every year are get a first round bye, make it to Lake Placid (or wherever the tournament is), and make the NCAAs.

If we have a great year by RPI standards and wind up just outside the bubble because this season is a weird aberration, I won't be happy, but it'll be hard for me to fault the team's performance.
Well, I agree. If Cornell were, for example, the first team out of the NCAAs, I'd be terribly disappointed, but I'd be proud of the team.

In general, national ranking is by far the best and fairest benchmark for how good the season was.

Trotsky

Quote from: cuhockey93Lots of people don't agree you can have a good season and miss the NCAA tournament. It's as simple as that.

Lots of people like country music.

With 10 freshmen, we (16-5-5) come off a 14-game undefeated streak; 10 in conference (nearly half the conference schedule). We are in 2nd in league and won the Ivies. It's a very good season overall. It is ironic that Schafer has been and continues to be so successful that people unconsciously just assume that's a privilege we have. It isn't. Ask Harvard (5-17-4).

RichH

Holy crap, this freaking thread.

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)

Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers.  I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.

Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades.  https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/

The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::

RichH

Quote from: upprdeckiceing, lose a draw, allow a crazy angle shot and goal then give away in OT behind the net.

Lots of things to go wrong to get a loss and why is Clarkon the place so many of them happen.

As the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.

I hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there. I don't have a count, but it feels like we've either lost a lead or the game a half-dozen times in the final minute there.  I think there was a time Clarkson scored the tying goal with under 2 seconds left.

In 3 minutes of searching the last decade at Cheel:
11/15/2013: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:37 left
1/29/2016: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:28 left (in OT)
3/2/2019: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:43 left
12/4/2021: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:01 left. Cornell led by 4 with 6 minutes left.
2/23/2024: ...and the beat goes on...

They say the North Country trip is the hardest to sweep, and there's more proof.

Scersk '97

Quote from: RichHI hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there.

Even less intimidating when their fans don't show up. That crowd was shockingly bad.

Trotsky

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: RichHI hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there.

Even less intimidating when their fans don't show up. That crowd was shockingly bad.
It was break.

Trotsky

Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
It will pass.  You have to expect a creche of scalded babies when we've all suffered through this interminable skein of one loss in 15 games together.

Scersk '97

Ah, February break, I see.

Still, their Townie attendance has gone the way of the dodo.