Cornell @ Clarkson, 2/23

Started by Trotsky, February 23, 2024, 05:47:17 PM

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Scersk '97

Quote from: RichHAs the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.

We weren't even facing the most dangerous lead in hockey, which is 4-0, of course.

We are not good at shutdown hockey this year. I'm going to chalk that up to having a bunch of freshmen. The struggles on the PK are in the same alley but are slightly more mystifying, because I have to admit Shane's been playing pretty hot.

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
It will pass.  You have to expect a creche of scalded babies when we've all suffered through this interminable skein of one loss in 15 games together.
jfc greg what the scalded babies are experiencing is "regret for what might have been."

our OOC schedule turned out, through no fault of our own, to be a dud, so our performance hasn't helped as much as we expected at the time. our early conference schedule is littered with inexplicable losses to, among others, a truly awful Harvard. as a result, now, in late February, when we blow a road W it reminds us that the long not-losing streak was necessary yet insufficient. all of that not-losing wasn't actually winning in the new, weighted-results post-polls world. We had four ties and two wins in OT during the streak with more frustration than relief in those six games.

I don't need anyone to be as frustrated with the season as I am - a season that gives plenty of hope for the future - but my god does it grate to be smugly mocked for actually paying attention.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: upprdeckiceing, lose a draw, allow a crazy angle shot and goal then give away in OT behind the net.

Lots of things to go wrong to get a loss and why is Clarkon the place so many of them happen.

As the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.

I hate that building. It makes me mad because Cheel is such an un-intimidating and sterile place to play, but we keep getting snakebit in the last minute there. I don't have a count, but it feels like we've either lost a lead or the game a half-dozen times in the final minute there.  I think there was a time Clarkson scored the tying goal with under 2 seconds left.

In 3 minutes of searching the last decade at Cheel:
11/15/2013: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:37 left
1/29/2016: Clarkson scores winning goal with 0:28 left (in OT)
3/2/2019: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:43 left
12/4/2021: Clarkson scores tying goal with 0:01 left. Cornell led by 4 with 6 minutes left.
2/23/2024: ...and the beat goes on...

They say the North Country trip is the hardest to sweep, and there's more proof.

Digging a little further back: http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/1996/box19960301.pdf

I also seem to remember sitting in a dining hall in 1990 hearing or reading about a tying goal where "The entire town of Potsdam was in the crease".

jtwcornell91

Quote from: Scersk '97Ah, February break, I see.

Still, their Townie attendance has gone the way of the dodo.

I would shake my head at this, but I'm not a big fan of crowded indoor spaces these days either.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

"Potsdam Greeks United" is a nice reminder of the fact that Clarkson and SUNY Potsdam (or whatever they're calling it these days) have a combined Greek system.  This fact is also responsible for my sister's teddy bear having been mauled by the Clarkson hockey team's dog.

marty

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: RichHAs the game wore on, and we kept playing poorly, I could see this ending, because it's happened before.

We weren't even facing the most dangerous lead in hockey, which is 4-0, of course.

We are not good at shutdown hockey this year. I'm going to chalk that up to having a bunch of freshmen. The struggles on the PK are in the same alley but are slightly more mystifying, because I have to admit Shane's been playing pretty hot.

But don't forget that everything will be cured once we start scoring on the powerplay!::burnout::
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

arugula

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.
It will pass.  You have to expect a creche of scalded babies when we've all suffered through this interminable skein of one loss in 15 games together.
jfc greg what the scalded babies are experiencing is "regret for what might have been."


our OOC schedule turned out, through no fault of our own, to be a dud, so our performance hasn't helped as much as we expected at the time. our early conference schedule is littered with inexplicable losses to, among others, a truly awful Harvard. as a result, now, in late February, when we blow a road W it reminds us that the long not-losing streak was necessary yet insufficient. all of that not-losing wasn't actually winning in the new, weighted-results post-polls world. We had four ties and two wins in OT during the streak with more frustration than relief in those six games.

I don't need anyone to be as frustrated with the season as I am - a season that gives plenty of hope for the future - but my god does it grate to be smugly mocked for actually paying attention.

Much of what I've been thinking. The "streak" wasn't really a streak and as much as I enjoy Harvard being terrible, they still haunt us with what turned out to be a truly damaging loss in the long run. I remember leaving Lynah that night furious and trying to explain to my family why. Now they see why. With our league schedule, we really can't afford to lose except to Q. Our OOC looked good on paper but ASU and UMD turned out to be not as good as hoped.

Dafatone

Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)

Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers.  I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.

Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades.  https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/

The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::

The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.

RichH

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)

Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers.  I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.

Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades.  https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/

The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::

The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.

I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.

Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."

Weder

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)

Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers.  I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.

Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades.  https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/

The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::

The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.

I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.

Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."

They ring it for big hits in women's games, too. Which is sort of interesting because those could in theory wind up being penalties.
3/8/96

jtwcornell91

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)

Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers.  I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.

Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades.  https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/

The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::

The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.

I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.

Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."

Do they still have an electric bass player with an amp?  (Also not "piped in", but amplified at least.)

Dafatone

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)

Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers.  I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.

Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades.  https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/

The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::

The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.

I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.

Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."

Huh, good to know. Maybe it stands out more cause the lack of crowd, yeah.

And it really sounded like a piped in effect to me. I know there's an infamous actual bell, but it sounded faker to me than usual. Then again, I guess I don't usually notice it, so I'm not sure what "usual" is.

Trotsky

Quote from: WederThey ring it for big hits in women's games, too. Which is sort of interesting because those could in theory wind up being penalties.
I was thinking that same thing during our game.  What if there's a borderline hit on our guy and it's in review?  That stupid bell ring might just be the psychological tip to the side of it being excessive.

The bell has been there as long as I can remember, like the goddamn train whistle, but I don't remember it punctuating hits.  I  remember it being disconnected from any particular action, though, so maybe it was sometimes hits, but behind the play and out of frame.

Trotsky

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: RichHHoly crap, this freaking thread.

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: DafatoneHas Clarkson always done that stupid bell sound effect on hits?

It's stupid.
Not that I remember.  It is idiotic.

Just for 67 years or so.  http://potsdamgreeks.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-clarkson-hockey-bell.html

(edit: I see JTW entered the room earlier to already lay this down)

Quote from: TrotskyThese guys are pretty bad homers.  I am used to Clarkson having much better announcers.

Yes, the color kid was a yippie green nobody, but the PBP was none other than Bob Ahlfeld, voice of Clarkson since 1996. One of the more respected announcers in the league for two decades.  https://www.nyhockeyonline.com/a-familiar-voice-returns-to-broadcast-clarkson-golden-knights-hockey/

The fact that even Trotsky lost a handle on the historical tidbits here is a little staggering. ::demented::

The bell isn't new. Playing the bell sound effect during play for hits, though? I don't remember that.

I started going there in the early nineties. Trust me when I say that they ring it mostly for big hits, but also for moments in games where Clarkson also happens to show "grit" or whatever. Maybe we've only noticed it because the crowds aren't as loud recently. Maybe they didn't ring it as much. Maybe Clarkson has just sucked more.

Also, this is the second time you've called it a "sound effect." It's an actual bell rung by students/alumni. Cheel isn't piping in any sound effects. Same with the way-too-over-the-top goal whistle: an actual steam whistle a member of the band has typically "played."

Do they still have an electric bass player with an amp?  (Also not "piped in", but amplified at least.)

The only electric bass I remember was at RPI during their national title run.  It was awesome.

Give My Regards

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jtwcornell91Do they still have an electric bass player with an amp?  (Also not "piped in", but amplified at least.)

The only electric bass I remember was at RPI during their national title run.  It was awesome.

Dunno if they still do, but Clarkson definitely had an electric bass player for a few years, maybe several.  The guy travelled, too.
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