NIL

Started by Trotsky, December 31, 2023, 08:56:34 AM

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Trotsky

An interesting take.

tldr: NIL can help the Ivies escape from the Academics Theatre of our prohibition on athletic scholarships.  We can still keep our branding while our rich alumni drop helicopters of cash on our athletes.  Use the designer label as a discriminator, and cough Development for payola.

Everybody wins.

ugarte

thank god the rich people can save us

RichH

Awfully glad to hear that there are ad-men who think people will want to buy Zagnut bars endorsed by famous Yale squash players.  If there's one thing the general public adores, it's Ivy Leaguers. High-end recruits with brains will still choose Notre Dame/Duke/Stanford/name-your-Jock-Powerhouse-with-good-academics to play basketball over Penn/Princeton.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugartethank god the rich people can save us

When SAC bought the Mets I vowed we'd do him last.

marty

Quote from: TrotskyAn interesting take.

This seems like speculation.  What evidence is there that the current Princeton players chose the Tigers based on NIL?

If they did so, fine but huh?

P.S. Is the NIL landscape going to eff up Division One hockey?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

David Harding

Quote from: New York TimesThe Best Teams That Money Could Buy

The four teams in the College Football Playoff used cash payments from fan "collectives" in unique ways to build their rosters, showing how much an influx of money has changed college sports.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/31/us/college-athletes-nil-sugar-rose-bowl.html?mwgrp=c-dbar&unlocked_article_code=1.KU0.zq5h.3F1yu6_AOo96&hpgrp=k-abar&smid=url-share

BearLover

This article offers literally no evidence that any Princeton player earned a cent of NIL money.

Trotsky

I think it more likely NIL provides a mechanism to correct for situations in which a player qualifies for an Ivy and really wants to attend, but financial considerations would previously have stopped him.  People aren't going to switch to an Ivy because Upper Class Twit of the Year buys him a Porsche, but NIL may stem Upper Middle Class flight.

ugarte

a lot of things may happen but they are much more likely to use their money to intimidate the board of regents into forcing out a school president

Trotsky

Hey, man.  What's freedom of expression compared to Cultivating a Beneficial Environment for Development?


Trotsky

Quote from: George64Free-agentry - Couldn't think of a better place to post this.
Confused.    Thought that rule was dead?

George64

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Quote from: George64Free-agentry - Couldn't think of a better place to post this.
Confused.    Thought that rule was dead?

I think now, "student-athletes" are allowed one penalty-free transfer, it used to be none.  Now they can continue to shop around for the best "scholarship" / NIL deal.

Weder

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Quote from: George64Free-agentry - Couldn't think of a better place to post this.
Confused.    Thought that rule was dead?

You get the first transfer with immediate eligibility now, but you need to complete a year at School 2 before you can transfer to School 3 unless you get a waiver.
3/8/96

billhoward

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Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: George64Free-agentry - Couldn't think of a better place to post this.
Confused.    Thought that rule was dead?
You get the first transfer with immediate eligibility now, but you need to complete a year at School 2 before you can transfer to School 3 unless you get a waiver.
That description may be what troubles the Justice Department: that players aren't free to jump at any time, including maybe even during the season.

And it makes further farce of the idea that these athletes will be thought of that description alone, not students who are athletes.

I could see a college realignment where several dozen schools (25? 100?) go all in on the Mercenary Athlete plan. Then the Ivies and some others circle their wagons and reaffirm you don't get scholarships for dribbling a basketball. Maybe the big schools only go all out in a handful of sports. Do the academics-first schools shun them ?