Is this legit??

Started by underskill, October 29, 2023, 06:31:54 PM

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Trotsky

It has more than a whiff of Cornell Review Editors Cosplay Project Veritas.

Quote from: Threats were posted to Cornell's Greekrank forums on Saturday, Oct. 28 and Sunday, Oct. 29

Radicalized Islamofascist frat boys?

But, not knowing either way, let's hope whoever did it is identified, apprehended, and prosecuted hard.

George64

Truly disgusting.  FBI and NYS Police investigating. President Pollack's statement.

BearLover

This website, greekrank, is apparently a public forum that anyone can post on. Given the substance and form (bad grammar, dumb colloquialisms) of these posts, it seems most likely to me they were made by some idiot teenage troll somewhere. Very unlikely to be an actual Cornell student.

underskill

Based on some of the graffiti on campus this week, the behavior of some professors and the admin in general, I sadly don't think Cornell students can be dismissed as culprits.  Which makes me ashamed as an alum.

George64

Quote from: underskillBased on some of the graffiti on campus this week, the behavior of some professors and the admin in general, I sadly don't think Cornell students can be dismissed as culprits.  Which makes me ashamed as an alum.

According to a NYT article, the offending professor requested a leave of absence.  I hope it's a long one.  Universities should be a place for informed debate, not mindless diatribes.

Trotsky

Personally I'm more about this than a Tankie or a Righty agent provacateur, but like I said, find who did it and run him* through the courts.

* It's always a him.

French Rage

Quote from: BearLoverThis website, greekrank, is apparently a public forum that anyone can post on. Given the substance and form (bad grammar, dumb colloquialisms) of these posts, it seems most likely to me they were made by some idiot teenage troll somewhere. Very unlikely to be an actual Cornell student.

That's my thought and hope (as much as wanting any outcome here can be a "hope") too.  It just seems like such an over-the-top way to do announce it if you were going to do it.  Of course, the intent may have been just to scare people from the start, which is equally as bad, and needs to be punished just as hard.
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scoop85

Quote from: George64
Quote from: underskillBased on some of the graffiti on campus this week, the behavior of some professors and the admin in general, I sadly don't think Cornell students can be dismissed as culprits.  Which makes me ashamed as an alum.

According to a NYT article, the offending professor requested a leave of absence.  I hope it's a long one.  Universities should be a place for informed debate, not mindless diatribes.

As long as Rickford remains on the faculty, Cornell isn't seeing another dime of my money.

George64

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: George64
Quote from: underskillBased on some of the graffiti on campus this week, the behavior of some professors and the admin in general, I sadly don't think Cornell students can be dismissed as culprits.  Which makes me ashamed as an alum.

According to a NYT article, the offending professor requested a leave of absence.  I hope it's a long one.  Universities should be a place for informed debate, not mindless diatribes.

As long as Rickford remains on the faculty, Cornell isn't seeing another dime of my money.

A major donor at Columbia expressed a similar sentiment.  The professor there called the Hamas atrocities "awesome," Rickford called them "exhilarating."  Academic freedom has its limits.  I can't imagine his faculty colleagues tolerating his views.


Trotsky

Quote from: George64Academic freedom has its limits.
No.  It doesn't.  You can be disgusted by his remarks; I am.  You may demand he modify what appears to be support for the murder of innocents*, which should be grounds for dismissal as it is not covered by freedom of expression.

But academic freedom is sacred.  A person could not be arrested for saying what Rickford did; therefore he should not face academic sanction for saying it.

Freedom matters most when you hate the sentiment.  That's when it's valuable.  The appropriate response to Rickford is: "You have the right to say that.  You are wrong.  Fuck you."

* Support for the IDF bombings would face the same test.