2023 Frozen Four

Started by Trotsky, April 05, 2023, 09:50:44 PM

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Trotsky

In the last 10 national championships, the ECAC is the second-most successful conference:

NCHC  16 17 18 19 22
ECAC  13 14 23
HE    15 21

shafer

I can't wait to see what the tidal rise feels like in our boat
Jay R. Bloom Head Coach of Men's Hockey

Dafatone

Quote from: ugartei'm sorry if you can't enjoy the gophers losing 10 seconds into OT what are you even doing rooting for any school that isn't minnesota

While the extremely blueblood #1 overall team losing immediately off the draw is certainly very funny, I live in Minnesota sports country, and let me tell you, these people need a win.

Trotsky

Quote from: DafatoneWhile the extremely blueblood #1 overall team

I understood that reference. ::popcorn::

jtwcornell91

Quote from: ugartei'm sorry if you can't enjoy the gophers losing 10 seconds into OT what are you even doing rooting for any school that isn't minnesota

Maybe if they had lost to Holy Cross.

jtwcornell91

I said to my wife, the marketing geniuses at Quinnipiac, Inc. must be thrilled that their advertising investment has paid off.  As consolation she pointed out that the media doesn't cover College Hockey, so no one will hear about it.  But then this morning my phone informed me that Nate Silver tweeted about it (with his always-funny "Fighting Pollsters" joke ::rolleyes::).  ::bang::

George64

I'm getting old, I suppose, but if winning an NC$$ championship means one-and-done, two-and-through and paying players through sham NILs becomes the norm, than I'm content just having a competitive ECAC team.  We did, afterall, shut out Q in the regular season.

I'm not totally naive, I know our players have gotten some great summer jobs in Ithaca and elsewhere, but college sports continue to lose any sense of propriety.  Big time football and basketball lost it long ago.  I recently read, "Georgia spent $4.51 million on football recruiting during the 2022 fiscal year."  Recruiting!  And, BTW, get off my lawn!
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RichH

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: ugartei'm sorry if you can't enjoy the gophers losing 10 seconds into OT what are you even doing rooting for any school that isn't minnesota

While the extremely blueblood #1 overall team losing immediately off the draw is certainly very funny, I live in Minnesota sports country, and let me tell you, these people need a win.

Eh. Duluth (a state school) won back to back just recently so I'm not too heartbroken for them.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: George64I'm getting old, I suppose, but if winning an NC$$ championship means one-and-done, two-and-through and paying players through sham NILs becomes the norm, than I'm content just having a competitive ECAC team.  We did, afterall, shut out Q in the regular season.

I'm not totally naive, I know our players have gotten some great summer jobs in Ithaca and elsewhere, but college sports continue to lose any sense of propriety.  Big time football and basketball lost it long ago.  I recently read, "Georgia spent $4.51 million on football recruiting during the 2022 fiscal year."  Recruiting!  And, BTW, get off my lawn!
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My feelings exactly.  Well said.
Al DeFlorio '65

BearLover

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85Someone should make sure Bearlover doesn't have access to sharp objects.
Seeing our rivals win national championships over and over before we even come close is painful, but it actually hurts less every time.
To expand on this, I think the biggest reason this doesn't hurt as much as it used to is that the biggest sports fandom disappointment I could ever imagine—the 2020 season getting canceled—dwarfs Quinnipiac or any other of our rivals winning the championship (as terribly depressing as that is). Nothing will ever be as depressing as the 2019-20 season.

Beeeej

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85Someone should make sure Bearlover doesn't have access to sharp objects.
Seeing our rivals win national championships over and over before we even come close is painful, but it actually hurts less every time.
To expand on this, I think the biggest reason this doesn't hurt as much as it used to is that the biggest sports fandom disappointment I could ever imagine—the 2020 season getting canceled—dwarfs Quinnipiac or any other of our rivals winning the championship (as terribly depressing as that is). Nothing will ever be as depressing as the 2019-20 season.

I don't disagree, that was incredibly painful. But I'm also going to say something I think a lot of people have also thought but would prefer not to admit: The 2019-20 team was incredible, and while it might have been our best chance in a very long time to win a national title, there were still going to be fifteen other teams in the NCAA tournament just as determined to take home the trophy, many of them quite capable of it. Anything can happen in four games, as many supposedly championship-quality teams have discovered over the years. The abrupt and premature end to that season meant we would never have to find out; it allows us the luxury of believing a title was not just possible, but likely.

I still believe we will get there in my lifetime.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

redice

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85Someone should make sure Bearlover doesn't have access to sharp objects.
Seeing our rivals win national championships over and over before we even come close is painful, but it actually hurts less every time.
To expand on this, I think the biggest reason this doesn't hurt as much as it used to is that the biggest sports fandom disappointment I could ever imagine—the 2020 season getting canceled—dwarfs Quinnipiac or any other of our rivals winning the championship (as terribly depressing as that is). Nothing will ever be as depressing as the 2019-20 season.

It still hurts to think of March 2020 & what could have been.....
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Dafatone

When I was nearly 8, the Mets didn't play take me out to the ballgame during the seventh-inning stretch because they were too busy firing their manager.

Nothing Cornell can do will hurt me the way the Mets do.

BearLover

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85Someone should make sure Bearlover doesn't have access to sharp objects.
Seeing our rivals win national championships over and over before we even come close is painful, but it actually hurts less every time.
To expand on this, I think the biggest reason this doesn't hurt as much as it used to is that the biggest sports fandom disappointment I could ever imagine—the 2020 season getting canceled—dwarfs Quinnipiac or any other of our rivals winning the championship (as terribly depressing as that is). Nothing will ever be as depressing as the 2019-20 season.

I don't disagree, that was incredibly painful. But I'm also going to say something I think a lot of people have also thought but would prefer not to admit: The 2019-20 team was incredible, and while it might have been our best chance in a very long time to win a national title, there were still going to be fifteen other teams in the NCAA tournament just as determined to take home the trophy, many of them quite capable of it. Anything can happen in four games, as many supposedly championship-quality teams have discovered over the years. The abrupt and premature end to that season meant we would never have to find out; it allows us the luxury of believing a title was not just possible, but likely.

I still believe we will get there in my lifetime.
I agree with this. Did we have greater than 50/50 odds against any of NoDak, Minn St., Duluth, or BC? Probably not. But we would have been a 1-seed with a really good shot (almost 50%?) to make the frozen four, which we now haven't accomplished in 20 years. And after losing in OT of the 2019 ECAC championship game on a blown call, even just winning that title in 2020 would have been an incredible outcome to every player, coach, and fan.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLoverAnd after losing in OT of the 2019 ECAC championship game on a blown call, even just winning that title in 2020 would have been an incredible outcome to every player, coach, and fan.
It is a remarkable quirk that our last ECAC Championship was 13 years ago.  We have had a number of excellent teams since then, including 5 trips to the NC$$.