Cornell Football 2021

Started by dbilmes, August 17, 2021, 09:00:09 AM

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RichH

Quote from: billhowardGood for you, Jim Knowles. Ohio State as of ~5 years ago had the nation's highest athletics budget.

Story here says TOSU had $234 million in athletics revenue in 2019-2020. My liberal arts math says that's a quarter of a billion dollars.

https://news.osu.edu/ohio-state-athletics-notches-record-revenue-spends-less-than-last-year/#:~:text=The%20department%20brought%20in%20%24233%2C871%2C740,each%20year%20with%20the%20NCAA.

The year the WCHA Frozen Four was played at THE Ohio State Arena, I walked from their old rinky-dink rink towards the center of the campus, and I swear that in my random walk, it felt that 75% of the campus is dedicated to athletics facilities. Even the first academic building I came across was for the Department of Physical Fitness Education or something like that. We joke about the phrase "jock factories," but............yeah.

billhoward

Be a start if: no athletic dorms.

Once Cornell builds out the sportsplex near the cow barns and polo arena, do apartment villages pop up that are favored by athletes for proximity to practice and game fields?

Ken711

QuoteTo land Jim Knowles, Ohio State made him the highest paid assistant in Buckeye history.  The new Buckeyes defensive coordinator will make $1.9 million annually as part of his three-year deal. That is significantly more than the $1.3 million the Oklahoma State Cowboys were reportedly set to offer him as part of a 5-year contract extension.


George64

After  he was released as the New York Giants' offensive coordinator, Jason Garrett was given very strong consideration for the open head coaching position at Duke.  In the end, however, he was passed over for the job.

Garrett comes from a coaching family, has an Ivy pedigree (Princeton and Columbia), extensive pro coaching experience, some NFL playing time, he's 55 and really shouldn't need a big payday, why not finish out his career at Cornell?

Moreover, Garrett might make a great mentor for Jameson Wang, "the second coming Gary Wood."
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Rita

Quote from: George64After  he was released as the New York Giants' offensive coordinator, Jason Garrett was given very strong consideration for the open head coaching position at Duke.  In the end, however, he was passed over for the job.

Garrett comes from a coaching family, has an Ivy pedigree (Princeton and Columbia), extensive pro coaching experience, some NFL playing time, he's 55 and really shouldn't need a big payday, why not finish out his career at Cornell?

Moreover, Garrett might make a great mentor for Jameson Wang, "the second coming Gary Wood."
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who did Duke hire? When Garret got released by the NY Giants, that was my first though - come to Ithaca. I thought Garret would have been at good fit at Duke.

George64

From NBC Sports:

Jason Garrett was a candidate for the Duke head coaching vacancy and believed to be the favorite for the job. . .

Duke is finalizing a deal to make Texas A&M defensive coordinator Mike Elko the school's next head coach. . .

Elko spent four seasons at A&M after serving as Notre Dame's defensive coordinator in 2017. He also worked as the defensive coordinator at Wake Forest for three seasons.
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Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Rita
Quote from: George64After  he was released as the New York Giants' offensive coordinator, Jason Garrett was given very strong consideration for the open head coaching position at Duke.  In the end, however, he was passed over for the job.

Garrett comes from a coaching family, has an Ivy pedigree (Princeton and Columbia), extensive pro coaching experience, some NFL playing time, he's 55 and really shouldn't need a big payday, why not finish out his career at Cornell?

Moreover, Garrett might make a great mentor for Jameson Wang, "the second coming Gary Wood."
.

who did Duke hire? When Garret got released by the NY Giants, that was my first though - come to Ithaca. I thought Garret would have been at good fit at Duke.
Mike Elko, Texas A&M defensive coordinator
Al DeFlorio '65

Ken711

Quote from: Rita
Quote from: George64After  he was released as the New York Giants' offensive coordinator, Jason Garrett was given very strong consideration for the open head coaching position at Duke.  In the end, however, he was passed over for the job.

Garrett comes from a coaching family, has an Ivy pedigree (Princeton and Columbia), extensive pro coaching experience, some NFL playing time, he's 55 and really shouldn't need a big payday, why not finish out his career at Cornell?

Moreover, Garrett might make a great mentor for Jameson Wang, "the second coming Gary Wood."
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who did Duke hire? When Garret got released by the NY Giants, that was my first though - come to Ithaca. I thought Garret would have been at good fit at Duke.

I don't see Garrett dealing with recruiting at the college level.  Mike Elko, who rose to acclaim as a defensive coordinator at Wake Forest, Notre Dame and most recently Texas A&M, got his first head coaching job when he agreed to take over the Duke Blue Devils' program Friday night.

Ken711

There's hasn't been a whisper out of the AD's office on the Cornell football program, either they aren't going to do anything yet again (probable), or they are waiting until after the 3 day signing period which starts this Wednesday (hopeful).

billhoward

When you've spent 10 years as head coach of the Cowboys (and have now been out of that job going on 2 years), and you're 55, maybe you think you've got another shot as an offense/coordinator then HC ... maybe Duke is okay as a place to regroup for a year or two, Princeton would be passable b/c you played there, but Cornell might seem to be saying, "I'm on cruise control en route to retirement and golf."

Or it could be recruiting at the college level is not his strength.

George64

Quote from: billhowardCornell might seem to be saying, "I'm on cruise control en route to retirement and golf."

Given the formidable challenges inherent in the Cornell football program, a successful head coach here could hardly operate on cruise control.

As for recruiting, I'd think that a prospective player would be thrilled to play for a head coach with Garrett's resume.  Plus, I think he'd be able to attract competent assistants.

That being said, we'll probably see David Archer back on the sideline next fall.  The only thing that will change this scenario is if football supporters with deep pockets say "enough is enough!"
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Ken711

Quote from: George64
Quote from: billhowardCornell might seem to be saying, "I'm on cruise control en route to retirement and golf."

Given the formidable challenges inherent in the Cornell football program, a successful head coach here could hardly operate on cruise control.

As for recruiting, I'd think that a prospective player would be thrilled to play for a head coach with Garrett's resume.  Plus, I think he'd be able to attract competent assistants.

That being said, we'll probably see David Archer back on the sideline next fall.  The only thing that will change this scenario is if football supporters with deep pockets say "enough is enough!"
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Or Andy retires.

Trotsky

Quote from: Ken711There's hasn't been a whisper out of the AD's office on the Cornell football program, either they aren't going to do anything yet again (probable), or they are waiting until after the 3 day signing period which starts this Wednesday (hopeful).
If there actually are any Old Rich Football Obsessed Alums (mental picture: Sterling Hayden in Strangelove) then they have to be doing everything short of banging Noel's nuts in the desk drawer to make him fire Archer.

Ken711

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Ken711There's hasn't been a whisper out of the AD's office on the Cornell football program, either they aren't going to do anything yet again (probable), or they are waiting until after the 3 day signing period which starts this Wednesday (hopeful).
If there actually are any Old Rich Football Obsessed Alums (mental picture: Sterling Hayden in Strangelove) then they have to be doing everything short of banging Noel's nuts in the desk drawer to make him fire Archer.

I think there's video of these "Old Rich Football Obsessed Alums" visiting with Andy recently in his office regarding the state of the football program.  

ugarte

i am going to once again say this gently because i am sometimes mystified at the conversation here: jason garrett would retire before taking a job coaching at cornell university. we wouldn't pay enough to make it worth his time even if it weren't in upstate new york. he doesn't want a "challenge" he wants to be the offensive coordinator or head coach of a team in the nfl.