Cornell Football 2021

[billhoward]

As a long time season ticket holder for football attendance has to be a concern.  Without parents of players, band members, and maybe cheerleaders there would not be anybody at the games. Low attendance probably also a reason for the tarp.  The football team's current state is a factor but looking at attendance for the other Ivy League schools it has to be a concern for the whole league.

Besides our longstanding ineptitude, I think the fact that the Ivy champ cannot participate in the FCS playoffs dampens enthusiasm for all the Ivy teams--even those who actually win a lot. Without the possibility of a national championship, it's hard for me, and likely many others, to get too worked up about winning an 8-team league. The Ivies have been nationally successful in so many sports, and it's beyond silly that the Ivy champ cannot participate in the FCS playoffs.

Some have suggested--seriously? a  joke?--that the Harvard and Yale presidents, presidents not athletic directors deciding on football taking part in the FCS playoffs, do not want something at season's end upstaging The Game.

[billhoward]

Yale in years past tarped off areas of the Yale Bowl not for small crowd reasons but because so many rows were so splintery. Except for the Harvard game, Yale doesn't need even half the 61,446 seats.


Random 2021 games. Wondering what is the second-best attended game involving an Ivy team.
This year, Harvard at Yale drew 49,500
Yale at Dartmouth drew 10,079
Harvard at Princeton drew 10,033
Yale at Princeton drew 7,686.
Cornell at Harvard drew 7,414

[Ken711]

Yale in years past tarped off areas of the Yale Bowl not for small crowd reasons but because so many rows were so splintery. Except for the Harvard game, Yale doesn't need even half the 61,446 seats.


Random 2021 games. Wondering what is the second-best attended game involving an Ivy team.
This year, Harvard at Yale drew 49,500
Yale at Dartmouth drew 10,079
Harvard at Princeton drew 10,033
Yale at Princeton drew 7,686.
Cornell at Harvard drew 7,414

Bill you missed a few:
Brown at Harvard drew 20,748
Dartmouth at Harvard drew 14,110
Penn at Columbia drew 11,054

[CU2007]

Do we really tarp off the stadium because of low attendance?! The Ivy League's Jacksonville Jaguars

[Weder]

Do we really tarp off the stadium because of low attendance?! The Ivy League's Jacksonville Jaguars

It doesn't look terrible, to be honest. It's several rows at the top of the Crescent. (It's at least better than the tarp with the Under Armour ad that they have/had at the Yale Bowl.) Who knows how it will look after an Ithaca winter, though.

[jkahn]

Former Cornell football coach Jim Knowles is getting a lot of credit for Oklahoma State's good season.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-knowles-defense-thriving-against-insanity-of-big-12-has-oklahoma-state-firmly-in-playoff-race/

[Ken711]

Another Letter to the Editor on the state of the football program and David Archer.

https://cornellsun.com/2021/12/02/letter-to-the-editor-cornell-football-program/?fbclid=IwAR2n898UAuWMZtxLJpdHNHhVa7HsCTXDK1nZWYEQs0n4OIC7VjSPVd44C5w

[Swampy]

Former Cornell football coach Jim Knowles is getting a lot of credit for Oklahoma State's good season.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-knowles-defense-thriving-against-insanity-of-big-12-has-oklahoma-state-firmly-in-playoff-race/

Is he just another in the long line of former Cornell coaches who underachieved in Ithaca but went on to do bigger and better things elsewhere?

[Ken711]

Former Cornell football coach Jim Knowles is getting a lot of credit for Oklahoma State's good season.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-knowles-defense-thriving-against-insanity-of-big-12-has-oklahoma-state-firmly-in-playoff-race/

Is he just another in the long line of former Cornell coaches who underachieved in Ithaca but went on to do bigger and better things elsewhere?

Good for Knowles, but at least he had experience as a defense coordinator before he came to Cornell.  Archer never attained the level of coordinator position, before he was elevated to head coach.

[billhoward]

Former Cornell football coach Jim Knowles is getting a lot of credit for Oklahoma State's good season.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-knowles-defense-thriving-against-insanity-of-big-12-has-oklahoma-state-firmly-in-playoff-race/

We're a different, mini cradle of coaches. Just that when coaches moved on from Miami of Ohio to bigger venues, they moved on with good records. Although Knowles' 26-34 isn't bad by Cornell standards;

[Ken711]

Former Cornell football coach Jim Knowles is getting a lot of credit for Oklahoma State's good season.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-knowles-defense-thriving-against-insanity-of-big-12-has-oklahoma-state-firmly-in-playoff-race/

We're a different, mini cradle of coaches. Just that when coaches moved on from Miami of Ohio to bigger venues, they moved on with good records. Although Knowles' 26-34 isn't bad by Cornell standards;

Knowles had the last winning season record a long 16 years ago, when the 2005 team ended 6-4.

[jeff '84]

Former Cornell football coach Jim Knowles is getting a lot of credit for Oklahoma State's good season.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-knowles-defense-thriving-against-insanity-of-big-12-has-oklahoma-state-firmly-in-playoff-race/

Is he just another in the long line of former Cornell coaches who underachieved in Ithaca but went on to do bigger and better things elsewhere?

Ohio State Buckeyes hire Oklahoma State's Jim Knowles as defensive coordinator


https://apple.news/AeOb5VNQDQUacyRcJ7QRnBA

[Ken711]

Former Cornell football coach Jim Knowles is getting a lot of credit for Oklahoma State's good season.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-knowles-defense-thriving-against-insanity-of-big-12-has-oklahoma-state-firmly-in-playoff-race/

Is he just another in the long line of former Cornell coaches who underachieved in Ithaca but went on to do bigger and better things elsewhere?

Ohio State Buckeyes hire Oklahoma State's Jim Knowles as defensive coordinator


https://apple.news/AeOb5VNQDQUacyRcJ7QRnBA

Knowles made 800k at Oklahoma State this past season,  They tried to keep him  but couldn't match the salary being offered by Ohio State University which is close to $2 million, making him one of the highest paid defensive coordinators in college football.

[billhoward]

Good for you, Jim Knowles. Ohio State as of ~5 years ago had the nation's highest athletics budget.

Story here says TOSU had $234 million in athletics revenue in 2019-2020. My liberal arts math says that's a quarter of a billion dollars.

https://news.osu.edu/ohio-state-athletics-notches-record-revenue-spends-less-than-last-year/#:~:text=The%20department%20brought%20in%20%24233%2C871%2C740,each%20year%20with%20the%20NCAA.

[George64]

And still, Cornell remains the the only school that's played football multiple times against TOSU and never lost.  23-14 in '39 and 31-7 in '40!  LGR!