Cornell Football 2021

[Ken711]

I wonder if fans can shame them into doing something. For example, distribute paper bag masks before the game the same way we distribute newspapers before hockey games.

I saw a few letter to the editors in the Cornell Daily Sun a few months back.

Yeah, but we need something that will draw national attention. I can't imagine the administration would be happy to see Sports Illustrated or the New York Times run stories about how terrible Cornell's record has become and the discontent among students and alumni over the administration's apparent indifference.

If the administration would just get AN to take early retirement, it would be a step forward.

Perhaps a plane flying over Schoellkopf pulling a banner reading "30 years of losing football is enough", like the NY Giants situation from years back.  I agree that nothing seems likely to improve until a new AD is appointed.  When was the last capital improvement drive for athletics at Cornell?

[nshapiro]

I wonder if fans can shame them into doing something. For example, distribute paper bag masks before the game the same way we distribute newspapers before hockey games.

I saw a few letter to the editors in the Cornell Daily Sun a few months back.

Yeah, but we need something that will draw national attention. I can't imagine the administration would be happy to see Sports Illustrated or the New York Times run stories about how terrible Cornell's record has become and the discontent among students and alumni over the administration's apparent indifference.

If the administration would just get AN to take early retirement, it would be a step forward.

What early retirement? He is class of '72 from F&M so he must be 70+.  Please don't tell me that his is a tenured position that he can keep forever!

[CAS]

Cornell put out a release on 11/30/16 which said Andy's contract has been extended through June 2022.

[George64]

Perhaps if Roger Weiss '61, who endowed the HC position, demands a better ROI?

[jtwcornell91]

Maxie Baughan used transfers to upgrade the talent plus some good recruiting.

Yes, things greatly improved during his tenure. In his final three years, his teams were 20-9-1!  Too bad he couldn't keep his fly zipped!  In eight seasons, Archer's teams have won 21 games.
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Elaborate!!

Baughan became head football coach at Cornell in 1983, and his 1988 team was co-champion of the Ivy League. It was Cornell's first championship since 1971. Baughan was forced to resign as head coach at Cornell after information surfaced about an affair he had with an assistant coach's wife.

They had pretty good success after Baughan with Jim Hofher when he led Cornell to a tie for the Ivy Championship in his very first year.  Hofher finished with a 45–35 overall record in 8 years.

I still feel sorry for Jack Fouts (whose name I had to look up), the offensive coordinator who got promoted to replace Baughan and then was fired after one 4-6 (2-5 Ivy) season.  Wikipedia tells me he had a pretty good run at his alma mater Ohio Wesleyan before that.

[Ken711]

Maxie Baughan used transfers to upgrade the talent plus some good recruiting.

Yes, things greatly improved during his tenure. In his final three years, his teams were 20-9-1!  Too bad he couldn't keep his fly zipped!  In eight seasons, Archer's teams have won 21 games.
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Elaborate!!

Baughan became head football coach at Cornell in 1983, and his 1988 team was co-champion of the Ivy League. It was Cornell's first championship since 1971. Baughan was forced to resign as head coach at Cornell after information surfaced about an affair he had with an assistant coach's wife.

They had pretty good success after Baughan with Jim Hofher when he led Cornell to a tie for the Ivy Championship in his very first year.  Hofher finished with a 45–35 overall record in 8 years.

I still feel sorry for Jack Fouts (whose name I had to look up), the offensive coordinator who got promoted to replace Baughan and then was fired after one 4-6 (2-5 Ivy) season.  Wikipedia tells me he had a pretty good run at his alma mater Ohio Wesleyan before that.

It's even sadder think that a one 4-6 record resulted in his firing, when Archer has only "achieved" a 4-6 record twice in 8 years, which were his highest finishes in those 8 long years!

[Trotsky]

It's even sadder think that a one 4-6 record resulted in his firing, when Archer has only "achieved" a 4-6 record twice in 8 years, which were his highest finishes in those 8 long years!

Not were.  Are.  There's still time for the denominator to get bigger.

[billhoward]

I wonder if fans can shame them into doing something.

A literal zero attendance would draw some attention.

Wasn't that done this fall? I mean, I don't know if it was intentional or just, well, enough-is-enough.

[Ken711]

So Penn's new AD wants to set a plan for improvements to their football program, and Cornell.....silence.

"The Penn alumni magazine contains an interview with Penn's new AD.

"Q: The football team just wrapped up a tough season. Perhaps it might be unfair to judge too harshly given the pandemic challenges, but what kind of pressure does that put on head coach Ray Priore?

A: This was a tough season for all of us. We appreciate that there was nuance with some of our peers having the benefit of more students taking gap years, which allowed them to have more veteran teams compared to ours. But I think we'll all be the first to admit we have work to do. And I think that is why its important for Ray and me to spend some time together brainstorming. I personally feel that we need to make some changes. We need to at least plot a course that gives us confidence that we're headed in the right direction.\\"The Penn alumni magazine contains an interview with Penn's new AD.

"Q: The football team just wrapped up a tough season. Perhaps it might be unfair to judge too harshly given the pandemic challenges, but what kind of pressure does that put on head coach Ray Priore?

A: This was a tough season for all of us. We appreciate that there was nuance with some of our peers having the benefit of more students taking gap years, which allowed them to have more veteran teams compared to ours. But I think we'll all be the first to admit we have work to do. And I think that is why its important for Ray and me to spend some time together brainstorming. I personally feel that we need to make some changes. We need to at least plot a course that gives us confidence that we're headed in the right direction.

[RichH]

So Penn's new AD wants to set a plan for improvements to their football program, and Cornell.....silence.

What's a "new AD?"

[Ken711]

So Penn's new AD wants to set a plan for improvements to their football program, and Cornell.....silence.

What's a "new AD?"

Athletic Director.

[nshapiro]

So Penn's new AD wants to set a plan for improvements to their football program, and Cornell.....silence.

What's a "new AD?"

Athletic Director.

Umm...I think the question was a humorous jest implying that in the Cornell Universe, there will never be such a thing as a 'new AD'

[Ken711]

So Penn's new AD wants to set a plan for improvements to their football program, and Cornell.....silence.

What's a "new AD?"

Athletic Director.

Umm...I think the question was a humorous jest implying that in the Cornell Universe, there will never be such a thing as a 'new AD'

True, let's hope Andy retires off into the sunset when he contract expires in June 2022.

[George64]

So Penn's new AD wants to set a plan for improvements to their football program, and Cornell.....silence.

What's a "new AD?"

Athletic Director.

Umm...I think the question was a humorous jest implying that in the Cornell Universe, there will never be such a thing as a 'new AD'

True, let's hope Andy retires off into the sunset when he contract expires in June 2022.

I wonder, does anyone in the AD's office tap into eLynah?  I'm surprised that there's been no apparent groundswell to oust Archer. I've never given anything to football, but have made not insignificant contributions to women's hockey and men's crew.  Next time AD Andy asks, I'll wait for him to answer about football before giving anything to the Athletic Department.

When I lived in Cleveland, I made annual trips to Ithaca to reconnect with friends and catch a football game.  Now I live in Rochester, and don't even think about driving 90 miles for football.  You'd think that in the midst of a major fund-raising campaign someone would pay attention to disgruntled alumni, even those who are not awash in money.
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[Al DeFlorio]

Noel appears to be averse to searches.  Has a search been done for a major sport head coach since Brian Earl's hiring?  Look at lacrosse:  Pietramala to Tambroni to DeLuca to Kerwick to Milliman to Buczek.  Add Koll to Grey in 2021.  And, of course: Austin to Archer in 2012.  All elevated from the then current coaching staff.