Bracketology for 2020 NCAAs

[ugarte]

Is it now time for the annual conversation about how endowments work?

Hosting a hockey regional is just like anything else you want Cornell to do that they don't already do. Someone external needs to come up with the money, the will, and the way of getting it done, and they might consider it.

Cornell has over a billion in the general purpose fund. Someone in Athletics can make a pitch to the Trustees.

[marty]

Is it now time for the annual conversation about how endowments work?

Hosting a hockey regional is just like anything else you want Cornell to do that they don't already do. Someone external needs to come up with the money, the will, and the way of getting it done, and they might consider it.

Cornell has over a billion in the general purpose fund. Someone in Athletics can make a pitch to the Trustees.

I nominate Greg.

[Swampy]

Adam's take on the brackets and the current issues.

Now, I don't really think Cornell should fear a potential second-round game in Allentown against Penn State. There would be at least as many Cornell fans there as Penn State fans. And I am fascinated by the idea of seeing Cornell face Penn State in the NCAAs, with contrasting styles. But I know Cornell people prefer Albany, so there's that.

Adam,

The issue is much bigger than how many fans are in the stands. If this were solely the case, Cornell would almost always be at an advantage.

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

[Dafatone]

Adam's take on the brackets and the current issues.

Now, I don't really think Cornell should fear a potential second-round game in Allentown against Penn State. There would be at least as many Cornell fans there as Penn State fans. And I am fascinated by the idea of seeing Cornell face Penn State in the NCAAs, with contrasting styles. But I know Cornell people prefer Albany, so there's that.

Adam,

The issue is much bigger than how many fans are in the stands. If this were solely the case, Cornell would almost always be at an advantage.

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

Would we even head back to Ithaca from Albany between games?

[Trotsky]

Is it now time for the annual conversation about how endowments work?

Hosting a hockey regional is just like anything else you want Cornell to do that they don't already do. Someone external needs to come up with the money, the will, and the way of getting it done, and they might consider it.

Cornell has over a billion in the general purpose fund. Someone in Athletics can make a pitch to the Trustees.

I nominate Greg.

I'm obnoxious and disliked, did you know that?

[Swampy]

Adam's take on the brackets and the current issues.

Now, I don't really think Cornell should fear a potential second-round game in Allentown against Penn State. There would be at least as many Cornell fans there as Penn State fans. And I am fascinated by the idea of seeing Cornell face Penn State in the NCAAs, with contrasting styles. But I know Cornell people prefer Albany, so there's that.

Adam,

The issue is much bigger than how many fans are in the stands. If this were solely the case, Cornell would almost always be at an advantage.

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

Would we even head back to Ithaca from Albany between games?

Probably not, but BC might head back to Chestnut Hill from a regional in Worcester hosted by, say, Holy Cross.

I believe that currently all teams participating in a regional or Frozen Four are required to stay in a hotel, rather than their dorms or regular college housing. To prevent geographical advantages with facilities, which go beyond hosting the event (see the BC example above), all participating teams, including their coaches, trainers, etc., should be forbidden from using any training or other athletic facility other than one(s) equally available to all teams participating in the event.

[Swampy]

Is it now time for the annual conversation about how endowments work?

Hosting a hockey regional is just like anything else you want Cornell to do that they don't already do. Someone external needs to come up with the money, the will, and the way of getting it done, and they might consider it.

Cornell has over a billion in the general purpose fund. Someone in Athletics can make a pitch to the Trustees.

I nominate Greg.

I'm obnoxious and disliked, did you know that?

This may be why he nominated you. ::popcorn::

[Trotsky]

Is it now time for the annual conversation about how endowments work?

Hosting a hockey regional is just like anything else you want Cornell to do that they don't already do. Someone external needs to come up with the money, the will, and the way of getting it done, and they might consider it.

Cornell has over a billion in the general purpose fund. Someone in Athletics can make a pitch to the Trustees.

I nominate Greg.

I'm obnoxious and disliked, did you know that?

This may be why he nominated you. ::popcorn::

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQbYgLae1u0

[upprdeck]

the power went out last yr at the Cornell hotel and they couldnt even watch game film for a good chunk of time while providence was home getting ready.

maybe they should ask the top 4 teams to order their preferences too. maybe ND would rather stay west and play Denver in rd 2 than go east?

[scoop85]

Adam's take on the brackets and the current issues.

Now, I don't really think Cornell should fear a potential second-round game in Allentown against Penn State. There would be at least as many Cornell fans there as Penn State fans. And I am fascinated by the idea of seeing Cornell face Penn State in the NCAAs, with contrasting styles. But I know Cornell people prefer Albany, so there's that.

Adam,

The issue is much bigger than how many fans are in the stands. If this were solely the case, Cornell would almost always be at an advantage.

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

State College is 164 miles from Allentown. Seems to me quite a bit different than Providence playing a few miles from its campus.

[Scersk '97]

I've always thought a neat way to run seeding would be for higher seeds to pick their locations and opponents. Might increase the travel costs too much on the national scene, but it would sure make ECACs interesting.

[Trotsky]

State College is 164 miles from Allentown. Seems to me quite a bit different than Providence playing a few miles from its campus.

That actually makes me feel a lot better.  Thank you.  I thought they were closer. That's the distance from Ithaca to Albany.  We'll be fine.

Ithaca distances to driveable regionals:

167 Albany
181 Allentown
293 Worcester

[marty]

Adam's take on the brackets and the current issues.

Now, I don't really think Cornell should fear a potential second-round game in Allentown against Penn State. There would be at least as many Cornell fans there as Penn State fans. And I am fascinated by the idea of seeing Cornell face Penn State in the NCAAs, with contrasting styles. But I know Cornell people prefer Albany, so there's that.

Adam,

The issue is much bigger than how many fans are in the stands. If this were solely the case, Cornell would almost always be at an advantage.

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

Would we even head back to Ithaca from Albany between games?

Probably not, but BC might head back to Chestnut Hill from a regional in Worcester hosted by, say, Holy Cross.

I believe that currently all teams participating in a regional or Frozen Four are required to stay in a hotel, rather than their dorms or regular college housing. To prevent geographical advantages with facilities, which go beyond hosting the event (see the BC example above), all participating teams, including their coaches, trainers, etc., should be forbidden from using any training or other athletic facility other than one(s) equally available to all teams participating in the event.

Isn't this exactly what the FryBoys did last year?  Is this a change or did they just ignore the rule?

[marty]

Is it now time for the annual conversation about how endowments work?

Hosting a hockey regional is just like anything else you want Cornell to do that they don't already do. Someone external needs to come up with the money, the will, and the way of getting it done, and they might consider it.

Cornell has over a billion in the general purpose fund. Someone in Athletics can make a pitch to the Trustees.

I nominate Greg.

I'm obnoxious and disliked, did you know that?

This may be why he nominated you. ::popcorn::

::whistle::

[RichH]

Adam's take on the brackets and the current issues.

Now, I don't really think Cornell should fear a potential second-round game in Allentown against Penn State. There would be at least as many Cornell fans there as Penn State fans. And I am fascinated by the idea of seeing Cornell face Penn State in the NCAAs, with contrasting styles. But I know Cornell people prefer Albany, so there's that.

Adam,

The issue is much bigger than how many fans are in the stands. If this were solely the case, Cornell would almost always be at an advantage.

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

Would we even head back to Ithaca from Albany between games?

Probably not, but BC might head back to Chestnut Hill from a regional in Worcester hosted by, say, Holy Cross.

I believe that currently all teams participating in a regional or Frozen Four are required to stay in a hotel, rather than their dorms or regular college housing. To prevent geographical advantages with facilities, which go beyond hosting the event (see the BC example above), all participating teams, including their coaches, trainers, etc., should be forbidden from using any training or other athletic facility other than one(s) equally available to all teams participating in the event.

Isn't this exactly what the FryBoys did last year?  Is this a change or did they just ignore the rule?

There is no such rule. Swampy's point is that there should be.