Bracketology for 2020 NCAAs

[marty]

Marty, I'm not sure what you're asking. Yes, the PC team slept in a hotel...

I was not reading your post properly.  I thought you were saying that Providence essentially broke the rules (or perhaps the rules changed after the 2019 season.) I was mistaken.

[adamw]

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

Allentown is hours from State College. No one is leaving Allentown to go train at their advanced home facilities.

Everything is driven by money. News flash.

[adamw]

And yes, Providence did play better that day. They whupped us. The question is how did they do it? There probably are a bunch of answers to this question that are legitimate and deserve a tip of the hat from us, but we'll never know if an hour in cryogenic therapy or a film session on ice, for example, didn't confer an unfair advantage that was unavailable to the other teams. I'm simply arguing (a) not to ignore such advantages (I'm looking at you, Adam) and (b) to find ways to minimize such unfair advantages.

I couldn't possibly had a chance to ignore it or not, because it's apples and oranges, and not germane to this year's conversation. As mentioned a few times already, Penn State to Allentown is not close - Cornell is barely further, and an easier drive away. So to the extent I ignored this point in that article - it's because it's irrelevant. But really, it just never crossed my mind.

[billhoward]

Read some of the local newspapers from last year, when they wrote about how the Providence College team could use its advanced training facilities to recuperate between games, and how the coaching staff could use the technology and tools at their home disposal to breakdown films and otherwise strategize for the upcoming second-round game. In this day of modern technology and training methods, home teams that are serious enough to make the NCAA's have a tremendous advantage.

Unfortunately, the NC$$ is driven primarily by money. If it were otherwise, to level the playing field hosting teams making the tournament would automatically be located away from the host city. If the school is enthusiastic enough to host the event, its supporters should be enthusiastic enough to travel to the event.

Of course I realize there are counter arguments about attendance and the atmosphere. But there should be no denying that today's home-ice advantage in the national championship is not your father's home-ice advantage.

Allentown is hours from State College. No one is leaving Allentown to go train at their advanced home facilities.

Everything is driven by money. News flash.

Adam, we are not concerned about the future. We are still trying to re-litigate 2019 and the quote unfairness of the PC advantage. Ignore that the oldest farts among us still recall when Ned (using his first name means "I was there at the creation of the dynasty"] would have the guest locker room windows welded shut and then turn up the locker room heat to 85 degrees.

But, yes, one could argue that fairness says a host team playing in its home city now 2 hours away cannot sneak back to campus to use its facilities, the ones not available to the other teams. The team still has the advantage of getting its fans to the arena on local buses. If such a rule got passed by the NCAA governors / competition committees, would it lead to fewer schools interested in hosting a hockey or field hockey regional.

[jtwcornell91]

The question about filling the War Memorial is a good one. But to answer it, we should compare it to Loveland, Allentown, and Albany. In any case, as I argued above, we should be able to host Albany, Buffalo, or Binghamton almost as well as Syracuse.

No love for Rochester?

[marty]

The question about filling the War Memorial is a good one. But to answer it, we should compare it to Loveland, Allentown, and Albany. In any case, as I argued above, we should be able to host Albany, Buffalo, or Binghamton almost as well as Syracuse.

No love for Rochester?

Rochester could be a great venue.  Is there a chance RIT would host?

[upprdeck]

Syracuse hosts Bball with no hope of a home game so they find value in it and thats way more work than a hockey regional.

[adamw]

The question about filling the War Memorial is a good one. But to answer it, we should compare it to Loveland, Allentown, and Albany. In any case, as I argued above, we should be able to host Albany, Buffalo, or Binghamton almost as well as Syracuse.

No love for Rochester?

Rochester could be a great venue.  Is there a chance RIT would host?

RIT did that in 2007 - only time the Regional was in Rochester. That was the year Jonathan Quick stood on his head and beat Clarkson 1-0.

[billhoward]

Syracuse hosts Bball with no hope of a home game so they find value in it and thats way more work than a hockey regional.

And that let us play the Sweet Sixteen game an hour from campus.

[ugarte]

The question about filling the War Memorial is a good one. But to answer it, we should compare it to Loveland, Allentown, and Albany. In any case, as I argued above, we should be able to host Albany, Buffalo, or Binghamton almost as well as Syracuse.

No love for Rochester?

Rochester could be a great venue.  Is there a chance RIT would host?

RIT did that in 2007 - only time the Regional was in Rochester. That was the year Jonathan Quick stood on his head and beat Clarkson 1-0.

Did RIT host in Buffalo in 2003?

[RichH]

The question about filling the War Memorial is a good one. But to answer it, we should compare it to Loveland, Allentown, and Albany. In any case, as I argued above, we should be able to host Albany, Buffalo, or Binghamton almost as well as Syracuse.

No love for Rochester?

Rochester could be a great venue.  Is there a chance RIT would host?

RIT did that in 2007 - only time the Regional was in Rochester. That was the year Jonathan Quick stood on his head and beat Clarkson 1-0.

Did RIT host in Buffalo in 2003?

No, the 2003 hosts were the MAAC, Niagara University, and Canisius College. Not that I remember much after that event started.

[TimV]

Yes, the PC team slept in a hotel. But they also went back to campus where they could use the "coaches offices, shooting room, ... meeting rooms, athletic training room, ... video boards, video ribbon boards, ... and a strength and conditioning facility"

Wow.  A shooting room?  Given our performance in shootouts, breakaways, and penalty shots,  where can we get one of those?::dribble::

[upprdeck]

all this worry and then we found out the games will be played with empty arenas

[French Rage]

all this worry and then we found out the games will be played with empty arenas

As long as the ice is NHL width...

[Jim Hyla]

USCHO: Bracketology: Time ticking down on which teams will qualify for 2020 NCAA hockey tournament

Jayson's:

Loveland

1 North Dakota
6 Denver
11 Ohio State
16 Atlantic Hockey Champion

Allentown

2 Minnesota State
7 Penn State
12 Arizona State
15 Maine

Albany

3 Cornell
8 Massachusetts
10 Bemidji State
13 UMass Lowell

Worcester

4 Boston College
5 Minnesota Duluth
9 Clarkson
14 Quinnipiac

Jim's:

Loveland[/b]

1 North Dakota
6 Denver
11 Ohio State
16 Atlantic Hockey champion

Allentown

2 Minnesota State
7 Penn State
10 Bemidji State
15 Maine

Albany

3 Cornell
8 Massachusetts
9 Clarkson
13 UMass Lowell

Worcester

4 Boston College
5 Minnesota Duluth
12 Arizona State
14 Quinnipiac