Rankings

[Dafatone]

Blame RPI, Brown, and (to a slightly lesser degree) Colgate.

The rest of the ECAC seems to be about its usual strength, but the bottom three teams are dragging everything down.

[Iceberg]

Being at .500 is a requirement for getting into the tournament as an at-large bid. St. Cloud would be out.

[upprdeck]

so lets root for denver this week and CC next week.

[wakester2468]

Lets hope it doesn't come to this, but with two weekends left does anyone know what the tie breakers are for final standings for the season? CU quite possibly could tie for any spots from first thru fourth.  I'm most curious about the 4th spot with Quin although that would require doing poorly these last four games.

[upprdeck]

I thought it was h2h and then maybe its record against team ahead of you.

[Give My Regards]

1. Head-to-head record
2. League wins
3. Record against top four
4. Record against top eight
5. Goal differential head-to-head
6. Goal differential against top four
7. Goal differential against top eight

[Jim Hyla]

I'll post it all after the Beanpot results are in, but we're 12 in USCHO poll.

[Jim Hyla]

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[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
February 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team        (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth   (44) 18- 5-5 993 1
2 Denver           ( 6) 20- 6-4 955 2
[b][u]3 Harvard        17- 5-2 885 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston University 19- 8-2 850 3
5 Minnesota 18- 8-2 773 5
6 Massachusetts-Lowell 19- 9-3 698 9
[b][u]7 Union        20- 8-2 665 6[/u][/b]
8 Western Michigan 16- 8-4 615 8
9 Penn State 18- 6-2 614 10
10 Providence 18- 8-4 566 11
11 Boston College 18-11-2 496 7
[b][u]12 Cornell        16- 6-3 472 12[/u][/b]
13 North Dakota 15-11-3 395 14
14 Ohio State 14- 8-6 369 12
15 Notre Dame 17- 9-4 310 16
16 Vermont        17-10-3 252 15
[b][u]17 St. Lawrence 15- 9-6 127 18[/u][/b]
18 St. Cloud State 15-14-1 125 NR
19 Air Force 19- 8-5 111 20
20 Wisconsin 15-10-1 88 17
Others receiving votes: Omaha 51, [b][u]Quinnipiac 40[/u][/b],
Bemidji State 36, Michigan Tech 7, [b][u]Clarkson 4[/u][/b], Canisius 3.

[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team              Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 506 (30) 1 18-5-5
2 University of Denver 478 (4) 2 20-6-4
[b][u]3 Harvard University 420 5 17-5-2[/u][/b]
4 Boston University 418 3 19-8-2
5 University of Minnesota 371 4 18-8-2
6 UMass Lowell        279 10 19-9-3
[b][u]7 Union College        275 6 20-8-2[/u][/b]
8 Penn State University 262 9 18-6-2
9 Western Michigan Univer 259 8 16-8-4
10 Providence College 210 12 18-8-4
11 Boston College        186 7 18-11-2
12 Univer of North Dakota 128 11 15-11-3
[b][u]13 Cornell University 116 15 16-6-3[/u][/b]
14 Ohio State University 87 13 14-8-6
15 St Cloud State Univer 34 NR 15-14-1
Others receiving votes: University of Vermont 23, University of Notre Dame 19,
[b][u]St. Lawrence University 6[/u][/b], United States Air Force Academy 3.

[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]

Rank Team               PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth 59 18-5-5 .7321 3 .6078 1
2 Denver                58 20-6-4 .7333 2 .5995 2
[b][u]3 Harvard                57 18-5-2 .7600 1 .5816* 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota        56 18-8-2 .6786 7 .5691* 4
5 Boston University 55 19-9-2 .6667 9t .5673* 5
6 Penn State        54 18-6-2 .7308 4 .5654* 6
7 Western Michigan 53 16-8-4 .6429 12 .5653 7
8t Providence        51 18-8-4 .6667 9t .5581 8
8t Massachusetts-Lowell 51 19-9-3 .6613 11 .5575 9
10 North Dakota        50 15-11-3 .5690 24 .5550 10
[b][u]11 Union                49 20-8-2 .7000 5t .5533* 11[/u][/b]
12 St. Cloud State        48 15-14-1 .5167 29t .5507 12
[b][u]13t Cornell                47 16-6-3 .7000 5t .5496 13[/u][/b]
13t Boston College        47 18-12-2 .5938 21 .5422 14
15 Ohio State        45 14-8-6 .6071 15 .5421* 15
16 Vermont                44 17-10-3 .6167 14 .5408 16
17 Omaha                43 15-12-5 .5469 27 .5400 17
18 Notre Dame        42 17-9-4 .6333 13 .5397 18
[b][u]19 St. Lawrence        41 15-9-6 .6000 17t .5382 19[/u][/b]

[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]

Rank Team        Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Minnesota-Duluth 518.5 .8275 3 18-5-5 0.7321 2.733 1 197.5
2 Denver         468.1 .8128 2 20-6-4 0.7333 2.750 5 176.8
[b][u]3 Harvard         351.0 .7668 1 18-5-2 0.7600 3.167 23 117.0[/u][/b]
4 Boston University290.3 .7327 9t 19-9-2 0.6667 2.000 9 148.7
5 Penn State 281.9 .7272 4 18-6-2 0.7308 2.714 29 108.4
6 Minnesota 278.4 .7249 7 18-8-2 0.6786 2.111 10 135.7
7 Western Michigan 272.1 .7205 12 16-8-4 0.6429 1.800 8 154.5
8 Providence 261.7 .7129 9t 18-8-4 0.6667 2.000 13 134.0
9 Mass-Lowell 255.5 .7082 11 19-9-3 0.6613 1.952 14 133.8
10 North Dakota 238.6 .6946 24 15-11-3 0.5690 1.320 2 182.5
[b][u]11 Cornell         236.3 .6926 5t 16-6-3 0.7000 2.333 33 105.0
12 Union         224.9 .6825 5t 20-8-2 0.7000 2.333 36 99.38[/u][/b]
13 Vermont         207.9 .6661 14 17-10-3 0.6167 1.609 15 131.3
14 Notre Dame 202.3 .6604 13 17-9-4 0.6333 1.727 20 119.3
15 Boston College 195.2 .6527 21 18-12-2 0.5938 1.462 11 135.2
16 St. Cloud State 193.5 .6508 29t 15-14-1 0.5167 1.069 4 181.4
17 Omaha         191.9 .6491 27 15-12-5 0.5469 1.207 7 159.9
18 Ohio State 181.2 .6366 15 14-8-6 0.6071 1.545 21 119.1
[b][u]19 St. Lawrence     180.7 .6360 17t 15-9-6 0.6000 1.500 18 122.1[/u][/b]

[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
February 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 27- 2-2 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 20- 5-5 134 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 23- 4-5 110 4[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 23- 5-3 105 5
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 23- 4-3 97 3[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 22- 4-5 79 6
[b][u]7 Cornell        17- 6-4 57 7[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 19- 3-6 41 8
[b][u]9 Princeton 16- 8-3 25 10
10 Quinnipiac 18- 8-6 16 9[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate 10[/u][/b], Northeastern 1.

[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 26-2-1 .9138 2 .6629* 2
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 34 23-3-2 .8571 3 .6213* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 20-4-4 .7857 4 .6178* 4
4 Minnesota 32 22-5-3 .7833 5t .6070* 5
5 Boston College 31 21-4-5 .7833 5t .6034* 6
[b][u]6 Clarkson 30 21-4-5 .7833 5t .5992* 7
7 Cornell        29 16-6-4 .6923 11 .5647* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 18-3-6 .7778 8 .5612* 9
[b][u]9 Colgate        27 21-7-3 .7258 9 .5587* 10
10 Quinnipiac 26 18-7-5 .6833 12 .5545* 11[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 25 19-10-3 .6406 14 .5520 12
[b][u]12 Princeton 24 15-7-3 .6600 13 .5494* 13[/u][/b]


[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]

Rank Team       Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1758. .9342 1 27-2-2 0.9032 9.333 2 215.9
2 Minnesota-Duluth695.5 .8529 7 20-5-5 0.7500 3.000 1 241.9
3 Minnesota 618.9 .8388 4t 23-5-3 0.7903 3.769 3 173.3
[b][u]4 Clarkson 530.3 .8186 3 23-4-5 0.7969 3.923 7 142.8
5 St. Lawrence 486.1 .8065 2 23-4-3 0.8167 4.455 13 116.7[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 445.3 .7936 4t 22-4-5 0.7903 3.769 9 124.7
[b][u]7 Cornell        246.7 .6925 9 17-6-4 0.7037 2.375 17 107.6
8 Colgate        205.6 .6565 8 22-7-3 0.7344 2.765 27 77.11[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 201.3 .6521 6 19-3-6 0.7857 3.667 32 58.15
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 192.6 .6431 10 18-8-6 0.6562 1.909 19 103.0
11 Princeton 189.9 .6401 11 16-8-3 0.6481 1.842 18 105.5[/u][/b]
12 Northeastern 189.2 .6394 12 19-10-3 0.6406 1.783 16 108.1

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4YfCvHPd7




[Swampy]

Could someone please explain how BC lost to Northeastern but this seems to have had no effect on the pairwise ranking, in which we're tied with BC at 13th?

[Dafatone]

Could someone please explain how BC lost to Northeastern but this seems to have had no effect on the pairwise ranking, in which we're tied with BC at 13th?

It didn't drop them behind any other teams in RPI, and it didn't flip their comparison with Providence, with whom they are behind in RPI but ahead in common opponents and head to head.  Had the loss to NE been enough to make them lose to Providence in common opponents, that would have done it.

[Trotsky]

Out of curiosity, had Harvard won the Beanpot in 2016 and 2015 would that have put us in the NC$$?

[upprdeck]

Could someone please explain how BC lost to Northeastern but this seems to have had no effect on the pairwise ranking, in which we're tied with BC at 13th?

It didn't drop them behind any other teams in RPI, and it didn't flip their comparison with Providence, with whom they are behind in RPI but ahead in common opponents and head to head.  Had the loss to NE been enough to make them lose to Providence in common opponents, that would have done it.

it does however add some dynamic if those teams plays a series in the HE tourney..  Northeastern would flip that PWR if they were to win that series now.

same thing for us with STL this weekend.  a win means they cant flip the pwr with them if we played again since it would probably only be a 1 game thing.

and beating union again would give us a shot to flip that one in a playoff game too.

[Hooking]

Speculation about the outcome of games in which other teams play other teams apparently assumes Cornell's playoff future is out of their hands.
I hope this is not the case. I trust winning their remaining games will insure them success and there is no reason to praise or blame the luck of the draw.

[Al DeFlorio]

Speculation about the outcome of games in which other teams play other teams apparently assumes Cornell's playoff future is out of their hands.
I hope this is not the case. I trust winning their remaining games will insure them success and there is no reason to praise or blame the luck of the draw.

I don't see a soul here "blaming the luck of the draw."  Only you, it would seem, with your unrelenting negativity, would even think of that.  Looking ahead at the schedule of your team and those it's competing with for first place, a playoff slot, or whatever, whether it's major league baseball, the NFL, or any other sport, is something fans do as a matter of course.  It's simply part of being a fan.

[Beeeej]

Speculation about the outcome of games in which other teams play other teams apparently assumes Cornell's playoff future is out of their hands.
I hope this is not the case. I trust winning their remaining games will insure them success and there is no reason to praise or blame the luck of the draw.

I don't see a soul here "blaming the luck of the draw."  Only you, it would seem, with your unrelenting negativity, would even think of that.  Looking ahead at the schedule of your team and those it's competing with for first place, a playoff slot, or whatever, whether it's major league baseball, the NFL, or any other sport, is something fans do as a matter of course.  It's simply part of being a fan.

I gotta come down squarely with Al on this one. I truly believe that if Cornell takes care of business, they'll get into the NCAA tournament, and if they don't get in, they didn't take care of business. I don't believe that slipping from #15 to #16 and getting bumped for a lower-PWR-ranked ACA tournament winner means we got screwed, it means we finished too low to ensure ourselves a slot. Now, of course, truly crazy shit could happen - with six conferences now getting autobids, we could finish #11 and still get pushed down to #17 by a torrent of Cinderellas winning their conference tourneys. Then I would think we got screwed. But that's highly unlikely.

Yes, at this stage of the game, winning out should certainly mean we have a strong shot at an at-large bid.

As Al suggested, taking a closer look at how the math works doesn't mean we're looking for something to blame other than Cornell's performance if we don't get in. It just means we're geeks and nerds who enjoy looking at how the math works and speculating on how the math could shake out and affect us in different ways.