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Started by Jim Hyla, October 10, 2016, 06:45:27 PM

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abmarks

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>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?

Presumably Harvard.  It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.

And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So  Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team

Jim Hyla

We've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.


[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 6, 2017[/u][/b]
Team              Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 507 (31) 1 18-5-5
2 University of Denver 470 (3) 2 18-6-4
3 Boston University 444 3 18-7-2
4 University of Minnesota 383 7 17-7-2
[b][u]5 Harvard University 371 6 15-5-2
6 Union College        326 5 19-7-2[/u][/b]
7 Boston College        325 8 18-9-2
8 Western Michigan Univer 264 9 15-7-4
9 Penn State University 227 4 16-6-2
10 UMass Lowell        208 10 17-9-3
11 Univer of North Dakota 116 12 15-11-3
12 Providence College 113 15 16-8-4
13 Ohio State University 108 11 13-7-6
14 University of Vermont 78 13 16-9-3
[b][u]15 Cornell University 72 NR 14-6-2[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]St. Lawrence University 32[/u][/b], University of Wisconsin 21,
University of Notre Dame 12, United States Air Force Academy 2, St. Cloud State University 1.

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jeff Hopkins '82

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Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:

>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?

Presumably Harvard.  It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.

And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So  Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team

Yeah, sorry.  Can't do it.  Still rooting for BU next week.

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaWe've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.
I don't understand why the Also aren't "ranked."  Seems clear to me that SLU is 16th.

nshapiro

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Quote from: Jim HylaWe've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.
I don't understand why the Also aren't "ranked."  Seems clear to me that SLU is 16th.

Yes, but then they wouldn't be publishing a 'Top 15' - some weeks it would be a Top 16, Top 22 etc. depending on how many got votes
When Section D was the place to be

Trotsky

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Quote from: Jim HylaWe've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.
I don't understand why the Also aren't "ranked."  Seems clear to me that SLU is 16th.

Yes, but then they wouldn't be publishing a 'Top 15' - some weeks it would be a Top 16, Top 22 etc. depending on how many got votes

They're publishing "The Top At Least 15."  :)

Al DeFlorio

Still 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.
Al DeFlorio '65

andyw2100

Quote from: Al DeFlorioStill 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.

But .0017 closer to 12th...

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: Al DeFlorioStill 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.

But .0017 closer to 12th...
And that much further away from 14...
Al DeFlorio '65

abmarks

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Quote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:

>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?

Presumably Harvard.  It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.

And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So  Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team

Yeah, sorry.  Can't do it.  Still rooting for BU next week.

So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...

Jeff Hopkins '82

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Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:

>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?

Presumably Harvard.  It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.

And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So  Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team

Yeah, sorry.  Can't do it.  Still rooting for BU next week.

So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...

No...I love Cornell, which is why I hate Harvard.  One of the reasons anyway.

ugarte

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Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:

>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?

Presumably Harvard.  It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.

And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So  Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team

Yeah, sorry.  Can't do it.  Still rooting for BU next week.

So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...

No...I love Cornell, which is why I hate Harvard.  One of the reasons anyway.
I would, sometimes, choose major pain for Harvard in exchange for a wee bit of pain for Cornell. It's like buying a Rolex for a dollar. I like money but can't resist a great deal.

marty

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Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:

>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?

Presumably Harvard.  It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.

And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So  Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team

Yeah, sorry.  Can't do it.  Still rooting for BU next week.

So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...

No...I love Cornell, which is why I hate Harvard.  One of the reasons anyway.
I would, sometimes, choose major pain for Harvard in exchange for a wee bit of pain for Cornell. It's like buying a Rolex for a dollar. I like money but can't resist a great deal.

Scheez, my Rolex was $10.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

TimV

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Quote from: Al DeFlorioStill 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.

But .0017 closer to 12th...
And that much further away from 14...

HA!  Engineers and Engineering perspectives.::laugh::
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

marty

Look who is helping our pairwise.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."