Rankings

[upprdeck]

yes.. poorly worded.

[scoop85]

I imagine this has been answered before, so forgive me for asking, but how do ties figure into PWR?

[Trotsky]

Currently 11th in PWR.  Only 8 10-thousandths of a point behind Providence in RPICH.

[Swampy]

USCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!

[Dafatone]

Anyone know why Providence wins their comparison with UMass-Lowell?

UML had the lead in RPI, Providence wins head-to-head.  But the common opponents column is a tie, which should result in a tie in the comparison (with RPI being the tiebreaker).

Instead, USCHO has Providence winning 2-1, despite showing a 1-1-1.

[Dafatone]

Anyone know why Providence wins their comparison with UMass-Lowell?

UML had the lead in RPI, Providence wins head-to-head.  But the common opponents column is a tie, which should result in a tie in the comparison (with RPI being the tiebreaker).

Instead, USCHO has Providence winning 2-1, despite showing a 1-1-1.

Huh.  Apparently going 2-0 against another team doesn't just net you one "win" for the pairwise.  It's a point per head to head victory.

Learn something new every day.

[RichH]

USCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!

CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.

[Dafatone]

USCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!

CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.

Hardly seems fair to drop far after losing to a team as good as Minnesota, but okay, I'll take it.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

USCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!

CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.

I saw the last few minutes of that game.  What a turnaround!!

[wakester2468]

A few observations after the Clarkson game tie. Unless significant upsets occur the last weekend, we are destined to finish 3rd. Harvard would have to lose twice at home, Union would have to lose twice while we sweep. Not sure I see Colgate beating Union. The other likely thing to happen is that Clarkson will finish 6th with St Lawrence and Quin finishing 4th and 5th with the possibility of that order reversed. Thus, now that we have secured a first round bye and most likely 3rd, the conclusion is that our quarterfinal match up is with Clarkson. Honestly, while we tied them last night, it was an away game and senior night for them. Of all possible match ups, in my opinion, this is preferable to Quinn or Yale who really bottled us up defensively recently.
In one week we will see if I know what the hell I am talking about

[upprdeck]

Clarkson has been a good matchup but really they have generated very little offense against us even while scoring goals.. 2 of the 3 last night were simple play mistakes by the D.   hopefully the real Angello shows up. He as all over the ice last week and this weekend generated very little.

[Trotsky]

USCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!

CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.

I saw the last few minutes of that game.  What a turnaround!!

Look at the shots.

[Beeeej]

A few observations after the Clarkson game tie. Unless significant upsets occur the last weekend, we are destined to finish 3rd. Harvard would have to lose twice at home, Union would have to lose twice while we sweep. Not sure I see Colgate beating Union. The other likely thing to happen is that Clarkson will finish 6th with St Lawrence and Quin finishing 4th and 5th with the possibility of that order reversed. Thus, now that we have secured a first round bye and most likely 3rd, the conclusion is that our quarterfinal match up is with Clarkson. Honestly, while we tied them last night, it was an away game and senior night for them. Of all possible match ups, in my opinion, this is preferable to Quinn or Yale who really bottled us up defensively recently.
In one week we will see if I know what the hell I am talking about

I think that's pretty sound analysis, except for the part where it assumes Clarkson will get through its first-round match-up with putative #11, RPI. In this case that happens to be a reasonably safe assumption, but it does bear mentioning.

[Trotsky]

PlayoffStatus.com has our odds at:

1 1%
2 15%
3 83%
4 1%

We are big Colgate and North Country fans next weekend (to be honest, if Harvard is going to shit the bed for one weekend I'd rather it be LP).


The odds for 6th are:

Qpc 1%
Clk 92%
Yal 7%


Looking at the difference between the most and second-most likely to finish in a given position:

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1 Uni/Hvd 15%
 2 Hvd/Uni 24[hr] 3 [b]Cor[/b]/Uni 70[hr] 4 [b]SLU[/b]/Qpc 68[hr] 5 [b]Qpc[/b]/SLU 68[hr] 6 [b]Clk[/b]/Yal 85[hr] 7 Yal/Prn 46
 8 Drt/Prn 15
 9 Cgt/Drt 10
10 Cgt/Prn 5[hr]11 [b]RPI[/b]/Brn 96[hr]12 [b]Brn[/b]/RPI 96





I think Brown and RPI are probably going down in the QF.  But Princeton is dangerous and they could be anywhere from 7 to 10, each with odds over 17%.

Current matchups:

12 Brn @ 5 Qpc
11 RPI @ 6 Clk
10 Prn @ 7 Yal
9 Drt @ 8 Cgt

If chalk in the first round, then:

8 Cgt @ 1 Uni
7 Yal @ 2 Hvd
6 Clk @ 3 Cor
5 Qpc @ 4 SLU

And if that held, then at LP:

4 SLU v 1 Uni
3 Cor v 2 Hvd

[billhoward]

Going into the final weekend, we are in third, finishing the RS with Union/RPI. St. Lawrence 2 points behind Cornell, finishes at Dartmouth and Harvard. I believe St. Lawrence needs at least a win and tie (3 pts) and Cornell a 0-point weekend to pass us since we win the H2H tiebreaker vs. SLU.

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 1. Union   31 Pts.
 2. Harvard 30
 3. Cornell 28
 4. SLU     26
 5. Quinn   23 vs. Brown ECAC first round
 6. Clark   21 vs. RPI
 7. Yale    18 vs. Princeton
 8. Dart    16 vs. Colgate
 9. Colgate 15
 9. Prince  15
11. RPI     10
12. Brown    7

In the quarterfinals in two weeks, the top four play the bottom four survivors, #1 say Union gets the lowest survivor, not the winner of the 8/9 games. We'd get the third-lowest survivor, right now #6 Clarkson. But if one 9-12 finisher wins, the third lowest could be Yale. Yale's forecheck seems as if it was created with Cornell in mind.