New Rules?

Started by Jim Hyla, May 10, 2013, 05:26:27 PM

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Chris '03

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Quote from: Jim HylaRIT Coach Wilson talks about where to play post-season and non-conference games.

Quote"Without Atlantic Hockey, there wouldn't be a 16-team tournament. That's where the growth is coming from."

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/07/19/rits-wilson-fix-home-game-inequality-before-adjusting-pairwise-looking-at-on-campus-regionals/#ixzz2ZluW20Y1

I very much agree with all of Wilson's points, especially in getting programs like Michigan and BC to travel.
I'd push for a rule like: a team must play a minimum of xx% of their out of conferencegames on the road (not neutral ice) over a yy year window. The percentage might be 25 or 33 and maybe you use a three year window.  As for enforcement, the ideal penalty would be tournament eligibility.  But maybe excessive home games are counted as loasses for the offending team.

Ok, so this is probably a pipe dream. I'm not sure how the rule committee/power structure is set up.  Is it even possible for a large number of schools to force a rule change over the objection of a few large schools?  I have to imagine the number of DI teams in the have-not category exceed the haves.

OTOH, a rule like this might result in an even more disconnected schedule where the NCHC and B10 type schools only play each other. Which wouldn't necessarily be good for the sport either.

It's all probably a pipe dream, but what if you lowered the games limit and broadened the exemptions?  Cap total games at 28 or 29 but exempt broad classes of road games. You want more game? Travel for them.
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Trotsky

Quote from: Chris '03It's all probably a pipe dream, but what if you lowered the games limit and broadened the exemptions?  Cap total games at 28 or 29 but exempt broad classes of road games. You want more game? Travel for them.

This would run into the opposite problem: small fry who wanted to host would run into the game limit.

One way to fix this would be to exempt both the host and guest from the game limit if the series was home-and-home.  This would be (IMHO) doubly beneficial to the small fry, since they would both get to host a power team and also play in its environment.  Those are the sort of conditions that build programs and fan bases.

Some PWR ways to help:

+ privilege NC road wins
+ discount NC road losses

Weight the PWR impact of games against opponent X as follows: Away Win > Home Win > Away Tie > Home Tie > Away Loss > Home Loss

nyc94

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Quote from: Jim HylaRIT Coach Wilson talks about where to play post-season and non-conference games.

Quote"Without Atlantic Hockey, there wouldn't be a 16-team tournament. That's where the growth is coming from."

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/07/19/rits-wilson-fix-home-game-inequality-before-adjusting-pairwise-looking-at-on-campus-regionals/#ixzz2ZluW20Y1

I very much agree with all of Wilson's points, especially in getting programs like Michigan and BC to travel.

What did RIT have to give up to get Michigan?  Every player's first born?

RatushnyFan

Michigan actually has a pretty tough non-conference schedule.....they're also playing UNH (2 games) and Nebraska-Omaha (2) on the road.  Of course they're playing BC, BU, UMass-Lowell. Michigan Tech (2), Niagara and Ferris State at home.  7 at home, 5 on the road, it's not so egregious this year.

Michigan 2013-14 Schedule

Jim Hyla

CHN on concussion and goaltenders.

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Jim Hyla

USCHO on new selection criteria. Road wins, quality wins get boosts in changes to NCAA tournament selection criteria . Article on thoughts behind the changes.

Interesting that they will reward road wins. However, you wonder if that will get the top teams to travel. They mention Michigan coming to RIT this season. If RIT loses, it's a 1.2 loss. If they had gone to Ann Arbor and lost, it would cost 0.8.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaUSCHO on new selection criteria. Road wins, quality wins get boosts in changes to NCAA tournament selection criteria . Article on thoughts behind the changes.

Interesting that they will reward road wins. However, you wonder if that will get the top teams to travel. They mention Michigan coming to RIT this season. If RIT loses, it's a 1.2 loss. If they had gone to Ann Arbor and lost, it would cost 0.8.

Even though the cupcake-rent-seeking of the factory schools knows no bounds, this is a step in the right direction, anyway.

ithacat

Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Jim HylaRIT Coach Wilson talks about where to play post-season and non-conference games.

Quote"Without Atlantic Hockey, there wouldn't be a 16-team tournament. That's where the growth is coming from."

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/07/19/rits-wilson-fix-home-game-inequality-before-adjusting-pairwise-looking-at-on-campus-regionals/#ixzz2ZluW20Y1

I very much agree with all of Wilson's points, especially in getting programs like Michigan and BC to travel.

What did RIT have to give up to get Michigan?  Every player's first born?

RIT certainly knows how to throw a hockey party. Making their annual game at Blue Cross Arena part of their Brick City Homecoming has paid off well. Since Cornell last made the trip in 2007, which set RIT's "home" attendance record at 5,142, they've seen impressive crowds at their BCA games. After a drop against SLU (3,296), they've seen crowds of 7,421 (Colgate), 10,556 (UML, SLU, and Penn State), and Michigan sold out a couple of weeks ago. With a new arena being built, and every home game broadcast on Time Warner in the Buffalo-Rochester-Syracuse areas, they've got a good thing going on in Henrietta.

George64

Quote from: Al DeFlorioThey could start by changing the rules on goalie pads so they'd look like this again: http://cdn77.psbin.com/img/mw=360/cr=n/d=lemah/obyehic09x0uuygx.jpg

The NHL has reduced the height of goalie pads by about two inches for the 2013-14 season.  Only about six more to go.

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: Al DeFlorioThey could start by changing the rules on goalie pads so they'd look like this again: http://cdn77.psbin.com/img/mw=360/cr=n/d=lemah/obyehic09x0uuygx.jpg

The NHL has reduced the height of goalie pads by about two inches for the 2013-14 season.  Only about six more to go.
I don't mean just the pads covering knees and shins, etc.  I mean all the padding:  chest, shoulders, hips, everywhere.  Goalies no longer look like human beings.  With today's new lightweight protective materials, there's no reason for a goalie to look like Bibendum the Michelin Man.
Al DeFlorio '65

Trotsky

Quote from: Al DeFlorioBibendum the Michelin Man.
Huh.  Never too old to learn something new!

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Rita

Quote from: Jim HylaThis week is the meeting to discuss new rules.

Ugh. Why do we have to have a WINNER for each regular season contest? If two teams play to a tie, so be it. Each team gets a point and tries to do better the next time out. I'm ok with the current ECAC 5 min 5v5 OT session.

If they do go to some freaking shoot-out system, I hope the college powers that be have better math skills than the NHL.

ftyuv

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Quote from: Jim HylaThis week is the meeting to discuss new rules.

Ugh. Why do we have to have a WINNER for each regular season contest? If two teams play to a tie, so be it. Each team gets a point and tries to do better the next time out. I'm ok with the current ECAC 5 min 5v5 OT session.

If they do go to some freaking shoot-out system, I hope the college powers that be have better math skills than the NHL.

Well, because if you're working with a small sample size, it's crucial to skew a few of your results. Because... yeah.

Josh '99

Quote from: Jim HylaThis week is the meeting to discuss new rules.
Man, a lot of these proposals just seem like change for the sake of change.
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