New Rules?

Started by Jim Hyla, May 10, 2013, 05:26:27 PM

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Trotsky

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Quote from: Kyle RoseAbsolutely, but I do wonder whether the severity and/or frequency of asymmetric accidents (e.g., between a car and a pedestrian, or a car and a bicycle) have increased as safety devices have gotten better and as traffic controls have proliferated (controlled of course for traffic density, among other things). I simply don't know, but the answer would be interesting either way.

There's something intuitively attractive to the idea that the safer we are the worse we drive, but there's also the empirically demonstrable fact that young males will always be fuckwits.  I strongly suspect, no matter how unsafe you made them, they would still be, as a class, the Greatest Menace We Face.

This is why God made conscription.
I suspect that the more societies try to restrict the ability of young males to make stupid decisions the more they try to rebel and take even greater risks. As with most things there's probably a sweet spot where there's some modest degree of prevention/safety and some freedom fo the indidivual to be a fuckwit.

I wouldn't worry.  When they rebel they're just following another pre-fabricated script, and they're just another marketing opportunity.

But if there was an actual threat, the best way prevent them from screwing up anything important might be to distract them with the prolonged adolescence of consumerism, alcohol, sports, and

Hey. WAIT A MINUTE...

upprdeck

I would like them to go back to the best of 3 first round.  Play well and get a home series and you get more fans in the seats.  even a place like lynah would sell more tickets than some of the regionls did and you would have a chance for 24 games instead of 12..

Trotsky

Quote from: upprdeckI would like them to go back to the best of 3 first round.  Play well and get a home series and you get more fans in the seats.  even a place like lynah would sell more tickets than some of the regionls did and you would have a chance for 24 games instead of 12..
I would love this.  It's one of those things that is dismissed out of hand by the ESPN-sniffer media types who like seeing their bylines coming out of "national" venues, but it would be a far better system than the current one.

Cornell had bad timing.  In the 70's they were often in the 5-10 range when only four teams made the tourny; then in the 00's they were often in the top 6 *just after* the early round home sites were phased out.

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Beeeej

Quote from: KeithKI suspect that the more societies try to restrict the ability of young males to make stupid decisions the more they try to rebel and take even greater risks. As with most things there's probably a sweet spot where there's some modest degree of prevention/safety and some freedom fo the indidivual to be a fuckwit.

Freedom of Fuckwittery, the oft-overlooked Amendment XXVIII.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Trotsky

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Quote from: KeithKI suspect that the more societies try to restrict the ability of young males to make stupid decisions the more they try to rebel and take even greater risks. As with most things there's probably a sweet spot where there's some modest degree of prevention/safety and some freedom fo the indidivual to be a fuckwit.

Freedom of Fuckwittery, the oft-overlooked Amendment XXVIII.
Nah, it's in the common law.

billhoward

The dangers of having read a marketing textbook. Only thing missing was the preface, "At the end of the day, there may be a broadening ... " Other than Hockey East in the East, filling the arena is a tall order. I wonder if they know Atlantic City is available.

Quote from: Atlantic Hockey commissioner Bob DeGregorio in USCHO"There may be a broadening of branding and media," DeGregorio said. "We're also looking at things like the timing of games at our championships to accommodate more [fan travel]..."
http://www.uscho.com/2013/05/17/atlantic-hockey-boosting-scholarship-limit-eyeing-replacement-for-connecticut/#ixzz2UcG6cbDh

Jim Hyla

Nice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaNice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.

This was striking:

QuoteMost coaches, however, prefer to stay at neutral sites and believe that going back to campus would amount to a "step backwards" for the sport.

Because when you're stepping off a cliff you wouldn't want to "step backwards."  :-}

marty

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaNice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.

This was striking:

QuoteMost coaches, however, prefer to stay at neutral sites and believe that going back to campus would amount to a "step backwards" for the sport.

Because when you're stepping off a cliff you wouldn't want to "step backwards."  :-}

Not if the back step leads you to Yost.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Trotsky

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaNice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.

This was striking:

QuoteMost coaches, however, prefer to stay at neutral sites and believe that going back to campus would amount to a "step backwards" for the sport.

Because when you're stepping off a cliff you wouldn't want to "step backwards."  :-}

Not if the back step leads you to Yost.
Or Lynah?
Anyway, we already have that with regional "hosting," and that's even worse since a 3 or 4 can be home as long as they pay for play.

marty

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaNice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.

This was striking:

QuoteMost coaches, however, prefer to stay at neutral sites and believe that going back to campus would amount to a "step backwards" for the sport.

Because when you're stepping off a cliff you wouldn't want to "step backwards."  :-}

Not if the back step leads you to Yost.
Or Lynah?
Anyway, we already have that with regional "hosting," and that's even worse since a 3 or 4 can be home as long as they pay for play.

Agreed. Although the silver lining is that it hasn't meant a title for UNH.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaNice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.

This was striking:

QuoteMost coaches, however, prefer to stay at neutral sites and believe that going back to campus would amount to a "step backwards" for the sport.

Because when you're stepping off a cliff you wouldn't want to "step backwards."  :-}

Not if the back step leads you to Yost.
Or Lynah?
Anyway, we already have that with regional "hosting," and that's even worse since a 3 or 4 can be home as long as they pay for play.

Well, it's not truly home, even if they are the sponsor.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

KeithK

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaNice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.

This was striking:

QuoteMost coaches, however, prefer to stay at neutral sites and believe that going back to campus would amount to a "step backwards" for the sport.

Because when you're stepping off a cliff you wouldn't want to "step backwards."  :-}

Not if the back step leads you to Yost.
Or Lynah?
Anyway, we already have that with regional "hosting," and that's even worse since a 3 or 4 can be home as long as they pay for play.

Well, it's not truly home, even if they are the sponsor.
Fiction. Yes, they might not have the last change if the host is the lower seed, which counts for something.  But they'll we able to sleep in their own beds and have a highly partisan crowd.  That counts for a bunch.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaNice summary, by Adam, of where the issues stand, prior to a NCAA men's ice hockey committee this week.

This was striking:

QuoteMost coaches, however, prefer to stay at neutral sites and believe that going back to campus would amount to a "step backwards" for the sport.

Because when you're stepping off a cliff you wouldn't want to "step backwards."  :-}

Not if the back step leads you to Yost.
Or Lynah?
Anyway, we already have that with regional "hosting," and that's even worse since a 3 or 4 can be home as long as they pay for play.

Well, it's not truly home, even if they are the sponsor.
Fiction. Yes, they might not have the last change if the host is the lower seed, which counts for something.  But they'll we able to sleep in their own beds and have a highly partisan crowd.  That counts for a bunch.

Some less fiction than that. For example, if Michigan sponsors Grand Rapids, they will likely have a more Michigan crowd, but it's a lot different than playing home at Yost. There can be a difference.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005