2012-13 Schedule

Started by Jim Hyla, December 29, 2011, 08:18:57 PM

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css228

I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.

Trotsky

Quote from: css228I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.
Well, we do play Union.

css228

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Quote from: css228I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.
Well, we do play Union.
We also play Brown.

Jordan 04

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Quote from: css228I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.
Well, we do play Union.
We also play Brown.

And Darmouth.

Aaron M. Griffin

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Quote from: BeeeejI appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

I am aware. Ohio University does play hockey at the ACHA Division I level. It is one of the two most successful programs in the ACHA. Penn State is the other. I have developed the tendency to refer to Ohio State as simply "Ohio" because Ohio State loathes being referred to as anything that confuses it with Ohio University. Ohio State views Ohio University as inferior. Most of Ohio State's rivals in the Big Ten have taken to referring to it as "Ohio" in passing as a subtle form of needling. I can abandon this practice on non-Big Ten fora, but why abandon a practice that annoys clearly the Buckeyes?

You mean besides 1) Ohio State fans never visit eLF, so it's completely pointless, and 2) it makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about until you explain it in detail?  You're right.  Can't imagine why you'd abandon it.

Ohio State would understand the insult. You can assume the contrary if you wish. Michigan has taken to using it commonly. If you read the article, it mentions how Michigan now replaces Ohio State's name on its scoreboards with "Ohio" as an insult.

A large reason why Ohio State emphasizes the "the" in its name so much is because it is an assertion of its identity as the sole land-grant institution of Ohio. The designation states that it is THE primary state university of Ohio. This distinguishes it from both Ohio University and Miami University. Both institutions fought the founding of Ohio State as the land-grant institution of Ohio (much like how the institutions that grew into the University of Rochester and Colgate University opposed the creation of Cornell). Referring to Ohio State as Ohio as an insult has this historical dimension to it as well as the current insult that it confronts regularly from Big-Ten rivals.

If we're worried about our opponents assuming our ignorance, then why bother mock them with incorrect names or serenade them with the wrong fight songs? The mistaken association of "The Victors" with Michigan State is far more common and far easier thought a genuine mistake than confusing Ohio State with Ohio University. Perhaps we should stop calling Dartmouth "UNH rejects," Dartmouth fans and players might think us that ignorant to believe that UNH is actually a more respectable academic institution.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

Jim Hyla

I quit. I think I do.:-}
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Aaron M. Griffin

Quote from: Jim HylaHow did we get to virtue? All I said was that they couldn't use that comment against us, as we don't use the phrase "the Cornell U". That's my whole point, it wouldn't work. It means nothing to that point whether we were chartered as "the" or not. I'm referring to common usage. After all, most sports fans are not going to go look up the charter to see how to say Cornell.

We agree on almost everything on here. I just wanted to point out that Cornell, like Ohio State, was founded with a definite article in its charter (one post, not yours, implied that it was a foolish way to name a university in the first place. I just wanted to add the perspective that Cornell is similarly chartered). I'm fine with mocking Ohio State for its fans's, alumni's, and players's odd, spoken emphasis on the "the" in particular.  We agree also that Ohio State fans would never take the time to look at the charter of a university for fodder for jeering.

I wanted to imply that we can come up with better ammunition to antagonize Ohio State than its weird fetish with "the."
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

Aaron M. Griffin

Quote from: Jim HylaI quit. I think I do.:-}

Like I said in my last post. My original point (poorly made, might I add) is one about the history surrounding Cornell and not an argument against others or your mocking of Ohio State's THE.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

marty

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Quote from: Jim HylaI quit. I think I do.:-}
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Aaron M. Griffin

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Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.
I trust my source - I'll bet you a beer it's Denver.  Probably more likely we'd have CC at Lynah early and be at Denver in January.  Either way, we'd open vs. someone with several games under their belt - that's the Ivy/ECAC disadvantage that's hard to overcome unless the Ivy's increase from 29 games.  That late start, with OOC games coming early, works against our whole league when it comes to PWR (or even KRACH).
I found some corroborating evidence that we'll be at Denver this coming season:
http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2012/03/du-to-play-at-north-dakota-next-season.html

If you read the fan comments, they don't seem to be nearly as optimistic as many on here about Denver's chances next season especially against such a tough schedule.

QuoteThis schedule is going to be absolutely brutal for a young and rebuilding Pioneer Squad.

Our OOC will tough. What is there one more date left open?
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

jtn27

I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.
Class of 2013

nyc94

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinOur OOC will tough. What is there one more date left open?

If all of these games do indeed make the schedule then are no more open dates: 2 vs. Colorado College, 2 at Denver, 2 in Florida, 1 vs. Michigan = 7 games.

Beeeej

Quote from: jtn27I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.

THE Indiana University-THE Purdue University THE Indianapolis.

THE The Citadel.

LA La Sorbonne.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Rita

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Quote from: jtn27I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.

THE Indiana University-THE Purdue University THE Indianapolis.

THE The Citadel.

LA La Sorbonne.

All of those are better than "THE U". ::yark::

marty

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Quote from: jtn27I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.



THE The Citadel.

LA La Sorbonne.

Ooh La La!

"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."