2012-13 Schedule

[Aaron M. Griffin]

I think you're all reading too much into it. He schedules the best teams he can get, but he's also pretty adamant about his reciprocation policy, so that's limiting. And these things are often scheduled a couple years ahead of time. It's just a coincidence.

Not to be contrary, but I know in the case of college football schedules are announced well in advance (seasons), why with college hockey do negotiations and arrangements continue, or seem to continue (per Berenson's comments), through the end of the season before when one would think, as you said, that they are in fact "scheduled a couple years ahead of time"?

I said "often," not always. Michigan at MSG is kind of a special-case scenario with 3 parties involved.

Very true. I know that Estero is planned well in advance. It just seems odd that college hockey keeps its schedule unannounced until the previous season ends as a general rule.

Also, Schafer, knowing his personnel and their points of development could predict at what level a team should be when booking these schedules in advance. Yes, I know that he cannot account for early departures, but it may be at least partially by design.

[CowbellGuy]

Well, some of those filler games tend to be booked late. Sacred Heart or Niagara on a Tuesday certainly aren't planned years in advance, so until the schedule's done, it can't really be announced. I still don't think how good the team is has any bearing on the quality of schedule. It doesn't matter how bad the team might be, if Schafer could schedule a home-and-home with a Denver or Michigan, I'm sure he would. How likely the other team is to accept could very well be impacted by the quality of Cornell's squad though.

[Josh '99]

You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:

For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).

I'm pretty sure they do that specifically to mock Ohio State.

Regarding that game at the start of 2002-03, my recollection also is that Cornell was badly outplayed (Ohio State had already played five games including a weekend trip to Alaska and outshot Cornell 29-13), and got bailed out by an awesome performance from LeNeveu.  The official Cornell Athletics recap seems to corroborate my recollection that Lenny was the star.

You left out the part about the hot tub suite.

And not by accident, either.

[Tom Lento]

Well, some of those filler games tend to be booked late. Sacred Heart or Niagara on a Tuesday certainly aren't planned years in advance, so until the schedule's done, it can't really be announced. I still don't think how good the team is has any bearing on the quality of schedule. It doesn't matter how bad the team might be, if Schafer could schedule a home-and-home with a Denver or Michigan, I'm sure he would. How likely the other team is to accept could very well be impacted by the quality of Cornell's squad though.

Yeah, that's why I can't imagine this is easy to do by design. A couple of years is just about the time frame where a coach could reasonably predict his team's chances at the national level, so it probably is still a factor, just less of a factor than things like raw availability. If Schafer could say "we're shaping up to be a top team in 2 seasons - how about it?" I'm sure that's a more compelling pitch to the top NC teams, but if they're already booked or unwilling to reciprocate on travel it won't matter.

[Josh '99]

I found some corroborating evidence that we'll be at Denver this coming season:
http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2012/03/du-to-play-at-north-dakota-next-season.html

Magness Arena is pretty sweet (I love the huge banked stands behind the goals) and the games would be cool too; we haven't played Denver since the 1986 NCAA Tournament.

[Rita]

I found some corroborating evidence that we'll be at Denver this coming season:
http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2012/03/du-to-play-at-north-dakota-next-season.html

Magness Arena is pretty sweet (I love the huge banked stands behind the goals) and the games would be cool too; we haven't played Denver since the 1986 NCAA Tournament.

Magness Arena is very easy to get to from downtown Denver via the light rail system. I walked around the arena when I was in Denver for the FF in 2008 and went to see a lacrosse game live (my first, Denver v. Q). It seems like a very nice arena, though from games on TV, the lighting seems a bit dim.

[David Harding]

I think you're all reading too much into it. He schedules the best teams he can get, but he's also pretty adamant about his reciprocation policy, so that's limiting. And these things are often scheduled a couple years ahead of time. It's just a coincidence.

Not to be contrary, but I know in the case of college football schedules are announced well in advance (seasons), why with college hockey do negotiations and arrangements continue, or seem to continue (per Berenson's comments), through the end of the season before when one would think, as you said, that they are in fact "scheduled a couple years ahead of time"?

Some football schedules are, some aren't.  The 2012 Syracuse schedule was just released March 27.  That was a special case, too, because of their conference turmoil.

Remember how late the OOC Cornell-Colgate at Thanksgiving 2010 was announced?  Many people had already made other plans for the weekend.  

It could have been amended, but the 1954 Ivy Group agreement that Beeej pointed us to says that "football schedules shall not be made more than two years in advance of the current calendar year" and "Schedules in all other sports shall not be made prior to December of the college year preceding that in which the schedules will be played."  If "made" means a commitment, then that is pretty constraining.  It surely takes time to shake things out, even with today's electronic communication.  A Doodle poll just doesn't hack it.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

Speculation is over. Cornell hosts Colorado College at Lynah Rink on October 26 and October 27. Two of seven non-conference games confirmed officially.

Edit: Actually, four out of seven non-conference games are known now because it has been announced officially (as we know) that two others will be against two of the group of Minnesota-Duluth, Ferris State, and Maine in Estero, FL.

[CowbellGuy]

Speculation is over. Cornell hosts Colorado College at Lynah Rink on October 26 and October 27. Two of seven non-conference games confirmed officially.

There may have been speculation about the date, but one need hardly speculate about Schafer's reciprocation policy.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

Speculation is over. Cornell hosts Colorado College at Lynah Rink on October 26 and October 27. Two of seven non-conference games confirmed officially.

There may have been speculation about the date, but one need hardly speculate about Schafer's reciprocation policy.

I meant about the date. I don't doubt Schafer's policy. I just don't count on anything, no matter how likely, occurring until it appears in some official form.

[Ronald '09]

Updates on Michigan Game:

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189434497190739969

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189438815897780224

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189432781787508736

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189434117799153664

[marty]

Updates on Michigan Game:

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189434497190739969

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189438815897780224

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189432781787508736

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189434117799153664

How is this a conflict? They each have their own band.

[Trotsky]

How is this a conflict? They each have their own band.

Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?

[marty]

How is this a conflict? They each have their own band.

Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?

The piccolo section is bigger than Union"s band.

[css228]

How is this a conflict? They each have their own band.

Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?

Guess Michigan attendance could be less than spectacular.