Scandal at Penn State

scoop85 · November 05, 2011, 01:00:48 PM

Some unsettling news down in Nittany Lion Country. Legendary defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky allegedly has a long history of abusing young boys. AD Tim Curley seems to have covered-up the facts -- and then lied about it to a Grand Jury. Those two men along with another PSU administrator have been indicted.

ugarte · November 07, 2011, 08:15:16 PM

This is so much worse than any of the "scandals" involving violations of the charade of amateurism in college sports. Joe Paterno, one of the supposed good guys in the sport, will now go down as the guy who enabled a pederast. End of story.

Robb · November 08, 2011, 07:12:06 AM

Obviously a horrible situation and the best thoughts I can muster go out to the affected boys and their families.

At the same time, I can't help a little idle speculation of what this could mean for the PSU athletics department in the long run - anything? Will their brand be so tarnished as to affect revenues? Recruiting? Might any coaches (e.g. Tambroni) decide to jump ship?

I can't recall anything remotely like this at any other school, so it's hard to imagine how this will play out without any precedent to compare it to.

Trotsky · November 08, 2011, 08:37:57 AM

If they clean house they can probably put the whole thing into a "regrettable tragedy which we have now left behind us" box. But they would have to go outside the school for an entirely new group, and everyone who could have possibly known and been complicit in covering it up is now toxic.

scoop85 · November 08, 2011, 10:26:02 AM

Spanier has got to go -- ultimate accountability rests with him. As for Paterno, he should have been gone awhile ago for other reasons, but now there's no way he should get a pass.

kingpin248 · November 09, 2011, 12:04:36 PM

Quote from: scoop85Spanier has got to go -- ultimate accountability rests with him. As for Paterno, he should have been gone awhile ago for other reasons, but now there's no way he should get a pass.

I fully agree that Spanier must go, and I would hope that Penn Staters who really love the school would suspend donations until he is out.

Paterno will retire at the end of this season; statement via ESPN.

Trotsky · November 09, 2011, 02:43:06 PM

Not that I don't trust the judgment of the Lynah Faithful, but I am very glad we're not hosting Penn State this year.

ugarte · November 09, 2011, 10:10:00 PM

Twitter whispers are that Spanier will "step down" and Paterno will be forced out, effective immediately. Board of Trustees press conference forthcoming.

Al DeFlorio · November 09, 2011, 10:30:03 PM

Quote from: ugarteTwitter whispers are that Spanier will "step down" and Paterno will be forced out, effective immediately. Board of Trustees press conference forthcoming.

Done: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state

css228 · November 10, 2011, 12:03:02 AM

Quote from: TrotskyNot that I don't trust the judgment of the Lynah Faithful, but I am very glad we're not hosting Penn State this year.

You're probably right that it would end up with the university being a bit unhappy, but we wouldn't be perpetuating the traditional hostile environment if we didn't toe the line somewhat. That said, in all likelihood, the line would be crossed before the first puck even dropped.

scoop85 · November 10, 2011, 07:46:28 AM

I'll be very curious what the Board of Trustees investigation turns-up. For instance, why exactly did Sandusky "retire" at age 55 in 1999, after the first known incident allegedly occurred in 1998? Perhaps that was the first part of the cover-up.

ugarte · November 10, 2011, 08:52:41 AM

Quote from: scoop85I'll be very curious what the Board of Trustees investigation turns-up. For instance, why exactly did Sandusky "retire" at age 55 in 1999, after the first known incident allegedly occurred in 1998? Perhaps that was the first part of the cover-up.

I've been saying that all along. It seems obvious to me and makes everything that followed even more disgusting.

ugarte · June 22, 2012, 11:26:55 PM

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Soon to be joined by Spanier, Curley and Schultz and eternally by the sainted Joe Paterno. What a disgrace.

billhoward · June 23, 2012, 08:24:53 AM

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Soon to be joined by Spanier, Curley and Schultz and eternally by the sainted Joe Paterno. What a disgrace.

More-important news from Friday at the other end of Pennsylvania: Cardinal's Aide Is Found Guilty in Abuse Case. More potential impact, more sermons Sunday about the media and the anti-religion court system really being at fault here.

jtn27 · June 23, 2012, 05:06:42 PM

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Soon to be joined by Spanier, Curley and Schultz and eternally by the sainted Joe Paterno. What a disgrace.

Unless I counted wrong, you have 3 extra "guilty"s.