polls 2009-11-09

[JasonN95]

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=uscho1m&season=20092010&week=1109

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1 Miami        (49) 8-1-1 999 1
2 North Dakota ( 1) 6-1-1 948 3
3 Cornell         3-0-0 855 5
4 Denver         6-3-1 830 2
5 Mass.-Lowell 5-2-1 778 8
6 Michigan 4-4-0 653 4
7 Bemidji State 7-0-1 599 11
8 Notre Dame 5-4-1 549 9
9 Alaska         6-1-1 521 13
10 Colorado College 5-2-1 478 12
11 Nebraska-Omaha 4-1-3 456 10
12 Yale        1-1-1 435 6
13 Michigan State 7-2-1 425 17
14 Massachusetts 6-1-0 357 19
15 Vermont        3-3-1 329 15
16 Boston College 3-2-1 316 16
17 Boston University 2-5-0 235 7
18 Minnesota-Duluth 6-3-1 178 20
19 Princeton 2-2-0 175 14
20 Quinnipiac 6-1-0 139 NR


How dare ND take what should be Cornell's 1st place vote? :-)

[Trotsky]

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17 Boston University 2-5-0


WTF?

[ithacat]

3 of the next 4 against ranked teams... 4 of the next 6, possibly 5 of the next 7, or 6 of the next 9, or 7 of the next 10...or...yeah, it's a mad schedule. I need some coffee. ::panic::

[RatushnyFan]

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17 Boston University 2-5-0


WTF?

I wonder if more college hockey fans are questioning that or Cornell's #3 ranking.  Niagara, Dartmouth and Harvard - we haven't played anyone that tough yet (though at least we've won).  I would rank several other teams ahead of Cornell at this point based on early season results.  It's early and there's a lot of parity so far.  Michigan is 4-4 and they always have the best recruiting class in the country!:-P

[Cop at Lynah]

Cornell men #3 and the woman are #7.  When was the last time both the men's and woman's teams were ranked at the same time ?

[Swampy]

Cornell men #3 and the woman are #7.  When was the last time both the men's and woman's teams were ranked at the same time ?

Last week the men were #5 and the women, #10. **]

[Tom Lento]

Cornell men #3 and the woman are #7.  When was the last time both the men's and woman's teams were ranked at the same time ?

Last week the men were #5 and the women, #10. **]

But prior to this season, maybe 1997/98. I don't believe the women have been ranked since then, if they were even ranked at that point, and the men weren't exactly tearing it up on the national scene that year.

It's possible the women were ranked at some point last season, but it seems unlikely.

[nyc94]

For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings up already as well as Bracketology by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.

[French Rage]

For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings up already as well as Bracketology by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.

At this point isn't PWR essentially RPI?

[KeithK]

For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings up already as well as Bracketology by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.

It just proves that there is a conspiracy to screw Cornell by sending us out west.  We're the only undefeated and untied team left in the coutry and we get sent to St. Paul?  That's outrageous!

[munchkin]

We have played far fewer games that the non-Ivy teams and thus the PWR (although worthless right now) ranking will suffer because of it.

[Scersk '97]

For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings up already as well as Bracketology by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.

Perhaps it's the editors' way of indicating gently the stupidity of whoever keeps voting for BU in the poll.

[jtwcornell91]

We have played far fewer games that the non-Ivy teams and thus the PWR (although worthless right now) ranking will suffer because of it.

Number of games played is irrelevant to the PWR.  At this stage, because record vs TUC won't contain enough results to qualify, every pairwise comparison will come down to RPI or maybe head-to-head.  USCHO's RPI is apparently not throwing out "bad wins", which I believe the NCAA is still doing; if you do that for us (as for any team with a perfect record) only our toughest opponent (in this case Harvard) counts, and we are #3, not #8:

RPI with "bad wins" removed
RPI without "bad wins" removed

Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.

[Jim Hyla]

Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.

But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::

[RichH]

Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.

But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::

Dammit, Jim.  Beat me to it.  ::whistle::