Clarkson hockey players face sex charges

Cop at Lynah · September 08, 2009, 03:41:28 PM

http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=347498

judy · September 08, 2009, 08:09:02 PM

I initially read that as "Clarkson hockey players face sex changes" and wondered how that would work. ::thud::

French Rage · September 08, 2009, 08:46:39 PM

[quote judy]I initially read that as "Clarkson hockey players face sex changes" and wondered how that would work. ::thud::[/quote]

I don't think they're THAT desperate to even the gender ratio up there. ::bugeye::

nr53 · September 08, 2009, 10:39:06 PM

To be fair, the charges are sexual contact with a minor and both are just recruits themselves (18yrs old). It has always bothered me that there's some magical instant of maturity that comes when you turn 18 that suddenly makes it "ok" to have sex. I'll assume the best in this case, consensual among all parties and maybe she was 17 or something. On the grand scale of "Sex charges", that elicits no more than a yawn from me. Considering that the charges are only for "contact" and I'm fairly sure I'm right.

Of course, that probably won't stop the "haha... clarkson..." jokes which may or may not get a rise out of other frequent posters and this thread may or may not spiral into yet another flame war.

God, the season can't start soon enough.

KeithK · September 08, 2009, 11:00:23 PM

From the information in the article my best guess is that this is some sort of technical violation of the age of consent rules and not a real crime. It could be a case of some unwanted sexual attention but there's no way to know from what's been written. Regardless, if the charges are only misdemeanors you have to think that there isn't much to the story. Hopefully the kids don't have their college hockey careers ruined over something insignificant. (Obviously there may be more to the story but...)

On the other hand, if they do end up playing for the knights it's fair game for Lynah.

Dpperk29 · September 08, 2009, 11:47:07 PM

Knew this would find its way here eventually.

Hopefully it is nothing major, and they can have successful college hockey careers.

ugarte · September 08, 2009, 11:49:22 PM

[quote nr53]To be fair, the charges are sexual contact with a minor and both are just recruits themselves (18yrs old). It has always bothered me that there's some magical instant of maturity that comes when you turn 18 that suddenly makes it "ok" to have sex. I'll assume the best in this case, consensual among all parties and maybe she was 17 or something.[/quote]
I'm not sure what the law is in New York but IIRC most states write the law so that there has to be a gap of at least three years between the parties before it becomes statutory rape to avoid cases where a legal relationship between 17-year-olds becomes illegal on someone's (read: the guy's) 18th birthday. Not all states, mind you, and some states consider underage sex illegal on both parties because laws are often draconian (read: retarded).

KeithK · September 09, 2009, 12:25:27 AM

[quote ugarte][quote nr53]To be fair, the charges are sexual contact with a minor and both are just recruits themselves (18yrs old). It has always bothered me that there's some magical instant of maturity that comes when you turn 18 that suddenly makes it "ok" to have sex. I'll assume the best in this case, consensual among all parties and maybe she was 17 or something.[/quote]
I'm not sure what the law is in New York but IIRC most states write the law so that there has to be a gap of at least three years between the parties before it becomes statutory rape to avoid cases where a legal relationship between 17-year-olds becomes illegal on someone's (read: the guy's) 18th birthday. Not all states, mind you, and some states consider underage sex illegal on both parties because laws are often draconian (read: retarded).[/quote]
According to Wikipedia (should be fairly accurate for this kind of subject) the age of consent in NYS is fixed at 17. The severity of the offense varies with the age of the parties. It can be a misdemeanor or felony.

However, the charges cited in the linked article (sexual misconduct) don't match the terms listed in the wiki so I can't draw any firm conclusions.

ursusminor · September 09, 2009, 06:21:16 AM

An '11 recruit is also allegedly involved http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20090908/NEWS09/909089977

KenP · September 09, 2009, 08:52:47 AM

What I find unusual is that this there are several hockey players involved. This does not sound like the standard case of high school romance.

Robb · September 09, 2009, 09:28:45 AM

[quote KenP]What I find unusual is that this there are several hockey players involved. This does not sound like the standard case of high school romance.[/quote]It's impossible to tell what's going on due to the shoddy reporting. The lead paragraph mentions "without her consent" but then the charges just seem to be "sexual misconduct" which presumably could be something as trivial as their encouraging her to flash them at a party. Since she's a minor, I'm guessing the full details will never be published.

Trotsky · September 09, 2009, 09:40:25 AM

[quote KenP]What I find unusual is that this there are several hockey players involved. This does not sound like the standard case of high school romance.[/quote]It does sound like the standard case of high school party: inexperience + hormones + alcohol = predictable problems.

ursusminor · September 09, 2009, 11:39:26 AM

[quote Trotsky][quote KenP]What I find unusual is that this there are several hockey players involved. This does not sound like the standard case of high school romance.[/quote]It does sound like the standard case of high school party: inexperience + hormones + alcohol = predictable problems.[/quote] It took place at a summer hockey camp at Clarkson http://www.wwnytv.com/news/local/58013822.html.

jtwcornell91 · September 09, 2009, 12:03:30 PM

[quote ursusminor][quote Trotsky][quote KenP]What I find unusual is that this there are several hockey players involved. This does not sound like the standard case of high school romance.[/quote]It does sound like the standard case of high school party: inexperience + hormones + alcohol = predictable problems.[/quote] It took place at a summer hockey camp at Clarkson http://www.wwnytv.com/news/local/58013822.html.[/quote]

"This one time, at hockey camp..."

Josh '99 · September 09, 2009, 07:15:45 PM

According to the article, they were charged with sexual misconduct. According to the New York Penal Code, this means:

§ 130.20 Sexual misconduct.
A person is guilty of sexual misconduct when:
1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without such person's consent; or
2. He or she engages in oral sexual conduct or anal sexual conduct with another person without such person's consent; or
3. He or she engages in sexual conduct with an animal or a dead human body.
Sexual misconduct is a class A misdemeanor.

Contrast this with:

§ 130.25 Rape in the third degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:
1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person who is incapable of consent by reason of some factor other than being less than seventeen years old;
2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person less than seventeen years old; or
3. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without such person's consent where such lack of consent is by reason of some factor other than incapacity to consent.
Rape in the third degree is a class E felony.

(I've changed the color of subsections that would seem to be irrelevant.)